[WARC] Fwd: Re: work on d-star clone?

Leslie Hittner lhittner at hbci.com
Tue Aug 26 23:16:26 GMT 2008


I've been a ham now for nearly 48 years and have never seen so much
controversy (except maybe when SSB came on the scene).

This is interesting...

-Les, K0BAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clare Jarvis" <jarvis at jarviscomputer.com>
To: "Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion" <warc at lists.w0ne.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: [WARC] Fwd: Re: work on d-star clone?


>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I sent a mesage out on the the debian-ham reflector (see below) ahd here
is
> the thread of response.
>
> I have searched four vendors for Icom id1 radios.   I find nobody who
sells
> the radio without the head and all of them sell it for $999 with the Icom
$20
> rebate.
>
> I do not know where or how anybody is purchasing these radios for under
$900.
>
>
> 73 Clare
>
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>
> Subject: Re: work on d-star clone?
> Date: Tuesday 26 August 2008
> From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com
> To: "Dennis Boone" <drb at msu.edu>
>
> Tnx for the replies.   I appreciate the information.   It has been
> reported on the 14567.org that the vodec is not used on the pure data
> mode.   Is that true?
>
> 73 Clare
> de K0NY
>
>
>
>
>
> >  > I've not seen anything on D-STAR except ICOM gear.  While the
protocol
> >  > is open, I understand that the vocoder chip ICOM uses is a
proprietary
> >  > off the shelf item.  While the chips may be available to the
> >  > experimenter, I've read of concerns of there not being a second
source
> >  > for the chips.
> >
> > There are worse concerns than that.  Overloading identification data
> > (needed for regulatory reasons) for routing purposes, extremely limited
> > callsigns (if you're an Aussie with a four letter callsign suffix, no
> > D-Star for you...), one radio per callsign (can you say lots of
> > technically illicit club calls under US regs?), network size limitations
> > that could hail from the 70s, the undocumented nature of the supporting
> > protocol for internet linking and services, no software codecs without
> > NDA and $kilobucks, etc.  PLEASE WILL THE RF FOLKS GET SOME HELP FROM
> > THE DIGITAL FOLKS WHEN DESIGNING THIS STUFF?
> >
> > High speed data ain't == D-Star, and I personally hope something
> > sensible comes along.
> >
> > KB8ZQZ
> >
> >
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