[WARC] Interesting Numbers

Leslie Hittner lhittner at hbci.com
Tue Jun 17 04:19:52 GMT 2008 

Darlene did in fact have regularly scheduled exec meetings. Her
goal was ultimately to stop having monthly membership
"meetings." As I recall, we never really got to that point
before she turned over control to her successor.

I'm not sure I heard many people complain about not having a say
at the monthly business meetings. It's a sure bet it wasn't the
60 or so hams who are non-members who were complaining! If you
look at the minutes for than last year or so, you will see that
very little "business" is conducted at the monthly membership
"meetings." Most of the time is used up making "announcements"
with very few motions.

>From 7-8  has been very nice this year. Len has done a good job
of putting together programs. In fact our programs have been
pretty good for a couple of years. Unfortunately they have been
limited by the "meeting" paradigm. If we can get rid of the
meetings, we can do a lot more interesting things besides sit
and listen to someone talk.

The time after the program (from 8-9) is a waste of time.

Len, you bet I will support discontinuing monthly meetings. I
have been advocating that for three years now (I even proposed
constitutional and by-law amendments to accomplish that. They
didn't pass!)

-Les


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Tagliapietra" <lancetag at Luminet.net>
To: <Litvan at acegroup.cc>; "Winona Amateur Radio Club general
discussion" <warc at lists.w0ne.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 09:46
Subject: Re: [WARC] Interesting Numbers


> Len,
>
> It is a great idea, and it has been tried before, with limited
success,
> becuase, even thought the membership complains about the
meetings, you
> get just as many complaints if "everyone doesn't get to
contribute their
> $0.02" to a decision at the meeting.
>
> When Darlene was WARC president, she held open meetings of the
executive
> board every month, with the goal of covering the material
prior to the
> meeting.  The problem is, the decisions made at those meetings
were then
> re-hashed at the regular meeting, ultimately saving no time
for anyone.
>
> I think what would make the biggest difference, is:
> a) publish the agenda in the hamgram.
> b) stick to the published agenda
> c) any calls for 'new business' will be for items to add to
next months
> agenda, but not covered in the current meeting.
>
> and one change was already suggested, and implemented, and
that is to
> make the program first, and those who are interested can stick
around
> for the business meeting.  That didn't seem to significantly
impact
> attendance.
>
> And, unlike Jim's comment, I don't enjoy a good debate, so I'd
rather
> see the issues dealt with elsewhere, but as I said, that has
been tried.
>
> Lastly, even when the club had 95 members, we still had about
the same
> number of 'active' folks, so I don't see the impact in
workload (but
> yes, there is an impact in the club treasury).
>
> --Lance
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:16:55PM -0500, Len Litvan wrote:
> > Les,
> >
> > Yes, the Directors should "take care of business" for the
club and bring
> > only big issues to the general membership at regular monthly
meetings if
> > necessary.  I envision full business meetings being part of
the general
> > club meetings only in June and December (election months).
> >
> > The Directors can communicate their decisions and
conclusions via the
> > reflector, the Hamgram, and a handout at regular meetings.
Same with
> > monthly Treasurer's reports and Secretary's reports.
> >
> > That's what I plan to do if I am elected President next
year.  Will you
> > support me?
> >
> > 73,
> > Len
> >
> > Leslie Hittner wrote:
> > >ELIMINATE THE BUSINESS MEETINGS! Do the club's business a
> > >different way. Concentrate on activities. If people are
> > >concerned about the "long" meetings, why look
> > >for a place that allows even longer meetings? A time from
7-9 is
> > >long enough - especially if you want young people to
attend.
> > >
> > >The "business meeting" answer has been staring us in the
face
> > >for years. Let's deal with it. People who "love" business
> > >meetings can come to the board meetings. Keep the rest of
the
> > >time to ham radio.
> > >
> > >-Les, K0BAD
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "James Jefferson Jarvis" <jj at aprsworld.com>
> > >To: "Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion"
> > ><warc at lists.w0ne.org>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:11
> > >Subject: Re: [WARC] Interesting Numbers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Dick Lindner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>I respond to Len's comments and second his comment on
> > >>>
> > >meetings.  There
> > >
> > >>>also needs to be variety in the meetings - some
historical,
> > >>>
> > >some "show
> > >
> > >>>and tell" for newcomers, and some programs that perhaps
have
> > >>>
> > >nothing to
> > >
> > >>>do with ham radio - the weather center visit was
certainly a
> > >>>
> > >good step.
> > >
> > >>I'd love to do more show and tell at the meetings. I've
> > >>
> > >brought a few things
> > >
> > >>this year, but haven't been able to show them. With the
lights
> > >>
> > >going while
> > >
> > >>the business meeting is still going, it doesn't make it
very
> > >>
> > >easy to do that.
> > >
> > >>>The "old days" also had hamshack visits.  It would be
> > >>>
> > >unwieldy to have
> > >
> > >>>all of the meeting attendees show up at someone's house
at
> > >>>
> > >the same
> > >
> > >>>time.  But perhaps, if there were 3 or 4 people willing
to
> > >>>
> > >open their
> > >
> > >>>shacks, and someone willing to coordinate the "round
robin"
> > >>>
> > >on the
> > >
> > >>>meeting night by clock time, then the groups could be
small
> > >>>
> > >enough and
> > >
> > >>>everyone could visit all 3 or 4 shacks.  What a kick that
> > >>>
> > >would be!
> > >
> > >>I would be happy to volunteer a "shack" visit to my work.
> > >>
> > >Electronics R&D,
> > >
> > >>machine shop, and tiny amateur radio installation. And a
> > >>
> > >meeting run and
> > >
> > >>facilities to host a meeting as well.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I have hopes for new hams to attend Field Day.  Perhaps
if
> > >>>
> > >we had a list
> > >
> > >>>of names and telephone numbers, some members of the club
> > >>>
> > >could make a
> > >
> > >>>personal call to remind/invite the new hams to Field Day.
> > >>>
> > >>>HF and VHF contests used to be run by those interested
with
> > >>>
> > >a couple of
> > >
> > >>>other hams showing up at a designated "contest station".
> > >>>
> > >WB0HAD and
> > >
> > >>>WB0PRK and I think N0BUI and myself did this a few times
and
> > >>>
> > >had a good
> > >
> > >>>time.  I'm not sure we ever sent in the contest results,
but
> > >>>
> > >the whole
> > >
> > >>>thing was a good time.
> > >>>
> > >>Good ideas, Dick!
> > >>
> > >>-Jim KB0THN
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