From ewbrom at hbci.com Tue Sep 2 03:43:12 2008 From: ewbrom at hbci.com (Erik Brom) Date: Tue Sep 2 03:43:27 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update In-Reply-To: <20080825001616.CB48F1B824@mail.hbci.com> References: <48B0424B.4090001@acegroup.cc> <20080825001616.CB48F1B824@mail.hbci.com> Message-ID: <20080902034434.E4BF61B706@mail.hbci.com> I've been busy and haven't had much time to work on this, but I have gotten to the bottom of the problem. Its a subtle incompatibility between the Micor receiver and the controller. The new controller has a slightly higher load on the audio input than our other controllers, which is throwing off the squelch circuit in the Micor. I'm going to add a buffer (audio amp) on the output of the Micor. This will take me a couple hours once I get to it. Soon I hope. Erik At 07:14 PM 08/24/08, you wrote: >Len, Tom, and went to the site today, but did not succeed in getting >the new controller to work. When the connected the Micor to the >controller, its squelch was always open. So we brought everything >down so I can look at it on the bench. > >I'll try to get it figured out in a few days. > >Erik > >_______________________________________________ >WARC mailing list >WARC@lists.w0ne.org >http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From Litvan at acegroup.cc Tue Sep 2 15:01:12 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Tue Sep 2 15:01:05 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies Message-ID: <48BD5538.2040403@acegroup.cc> Should we be working with some of the most directly-supported emergency service agencies to minimize the power connector issues as we transition to Power Poles? I was thinking especially of the county EOC and Winona Health.... 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Tue Sep 2 15:12:00 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Tue Sep 2 15:11:54 2008 Subject: [WARC] Anderson Power Poles - Winona Amateur Radio Club Project Message-ID: <48BD57C0.7060903@acegroup.cc> Hello all, Due to some interest by hams not located in the immediate Winona locale, we are adding shipping service to the project. The price for shipping will be $5.00 per order when requested. This information is not on the Order Form yet, so please let me know if you want to take advantage of this option. Send me an e-mail or hand-write the info on the Order Form for the time being. All orders received to date are assumed to be customer pick-up unless we are otherwise notified. We are acknowledging each order when received. If you submitted an order and have not yet received an order acknowledgment, please let me know. All the orders received to date have been acknowledged. Have a good day! 73, Len KC0RSX KC0RSX@arrl.net Voice or fax: (507) 643-6057 From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Tue Sep 2 15:31:30 2008 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Tue Sep 2 15:31:54 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <48BD5538.2040403@acegroup.cc> References: <48BD5538.2040403@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <200809021031.30510.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Hi Len, My option is that we should not contact them, but should be prepared to install connecters to their power supplies to accomodate our equipment or better yet bring our own power supplies. The reason for this opinion is multi-fold: 1. We will probably not get full agreement with our customers and therefore any committment will be slow in coming. 2. We do not want to cause any more comittee meetings etc for our customers. 3. We do not know at what locations or what equipment we will be interconnecting with. If we anticipate and think we are covered then we may be complacent when a real emergency starts, because the equipment we planned on will be at other locations. 4. It may be years (hopefully) before we will need to interconnect equipment. We do not want to monitor every equipment change at our customers and keep changing out connectors as they change equipment. 5. If we are prepared with an assortment of pre-configured power pole adapters to common connectors and if we carry spare connectors, spare wire, with crimpers then we should be able to make a connection on the fly in a real emergency no matter what equipment shows up. At that point a committee meeting will not be necessary or desirable. 6. If we bring our own power supplies then, we will be able to plug them in with a standard three prong plug. If we do not have power then we will need our own batteries and generators. 73 Clare On Tuesday 02 September 2008 10:01:12 Len Litvan wrote: > Should we be working with some of the most directly-supported emergency > service agencies to minimize the power connector issues as we transition > to Power Poles? I was thinking especially of the county EOC and Winona > Health.... > > 73, > Len KC0RSX > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc -- Mr. Clare Jarvis President, Jarvis Computer Software PO Box 1264 Winona, MN 5598707264 (507) 454-2575 From ewbrom at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 03:58:44 2008 From: ewbrom at hbci.com (Erik Brom) Date: Thu Sep 4 04:00:27 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update - Wednesday Message-ID: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> I made the circuit mod, and the repeater is now running at my house. RX antenna is outside, TX antenna is in the basement, so not a lot of range. I just talked to Les from his home QTH and it sounded good both ways. Repeat level is slightly below unity right now. Clare and Len, Lance, whoever, - can we set up a time this weekend, maybe Saturday morning, to adjust the levels? I'm fully booked Thursday and Friday. Erik I've been busy and haven't had much time to work on this, but I have gotten to the bottom of the problem. Its a subtle incompatibility between the Micor receiver and the controller. The new controller has a slightly higher load on the audio input than our other controllers, which is throwing off the squelch circuit in the Micor. I'm going to add a buffer (audio amp) on the output of the Micor. This will take me a couple hours once I get to it. Soon I hope. Erik At 07:14 PM 08/24/08, you wrote: >Len, Tom, and went to the site today, but did not succeed in getting >the new controller to work. When the connected the Micor to the >controller, its squelch was always open. So we brought everything >down so I can look at it on the bench. > >I'll try to get it figured out in a few days. > >Erik > >_______________________________________________ >WARC mailing list >WARC@lists.w0ne.org >http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc _______________________________________________ WARC mailing list WARC@lists.w0ne.org http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Thu Sep 4 12:09:08 2008 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (jarvis@jarviscomputer.com) Date: Thu Sep 4 12:09:22 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update - Wednesday In-Reply-To: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> References: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> Message-ID: <1251.205.243.115.83.1220530148.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> Erik, I am working this weekend and will not be able to adjust levels. I have the deviation meter at my house but some one should pick it up today. The meter reading should only be made when a dtmf tone is being transmitted. I checked the 64 and it is spot on. Clare > I made the circuit mod, and the repeater is now running at my > house. RX antenna is outside, TX antenna is in the basement, so not > a lot of range. I just talked to Les from his home QTH and it > sounded good both ways. Repeat level is slightly below unity right now. > > Clare and Len, Lance, whoever, - can we set up a time this weekend, > maybe Saturday morning, to adjust the levels? I'm fully booked > Thursday and Friday. > > Erik > > > > I've been busy and haven't had much time to work on this, but I have > gotten to the bottom of the problem. Its a subtle incompatibility > between the Micor receiver and the controller. > The new controller has a slightly higher load on the audio input than > our other controllers, which is throwing off the squelch circuit in > the Micor. I'm going to add a buffer (audio amp) on the output of > the Micor. This will take me a couple hours once I get to it. Soon I > hope. > > Erik > > > At 07:14 PM 08/24/08, you wrote: >>Len, Tom, and went to the site today, but did not succeed in getting >>the new controller to work. When the connected the Micor to the >>controller, its squelch was always open. So we brought everything >>down so I can look at it on the bench. >> >>I'll try to get it figured out in a few days. >> >>Erik >> >>_______________________________________________ >>WARC mailing list >>WARC@lists.w0ne.org >>http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > From Litvan at acegroup.cc Thu Sep 4 13:01:49 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Thu Sep 4 13:01:52 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update - Wednesday In-Reply-To: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> References: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> Message-ID: <48BFDC3D.8030805@acegroup.cc> Erik, First of all, thanks for the time and effort you put into diagnosing and modifying the equipment to solve the problem. Good job! I am available on Saturday morning right after breakfast. I look forward to making the trip. What else should we do while up there? Len Erik Brom wrote: > I made the circuit mod, and the repeater is now running at my house. > RX antenna is outside, TX antenna is in the basement, so not a lot of > range. I just talked to Les from his home QTH and it sounded good > both ways. Repeat level is slightly below unity right now. > > Clare and Len, Lance, whoever, - can we set up a time this weekend, > maybe Saturday morning, to adjust the levels? I'm fully booked > Thursday and Friday. > > Erik From Litvan at acegroup.cc Thu Sep 4 13:18:12 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Thu Sep 4 13:18:17 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <1155.205.243.115.83.1220445083.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> References: <48BD5538.2040403@acegroup.cc> <200809021031.30510.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <48BE0360.2030605@acegroup.cc> <1155.205.243.115.83.1220445083.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> Message-ID: <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> Hi Clare, You are absolutely correct about the power cables and adapters we all should have in our "go bags". I added the specific items below to the Wiki in the section about emergency communications. Good subject for a Sunday night net also. Incidentally, these specific items are included in the cable set which is part of the club Power Pole transition project. The project is a good deal (price) for hams wanting to be prepared to help when the chips are down. Somehow, however, I still believe we are not helping make an integrated system for emergency communications--integrated with the service agencies we support at the most fundamental level. It seems that amateurs do our thing--the agencies served do their thing--and we take lots of diagonal cutting pliers, crimpers/solder, and lots of adapters & wires (and time) to make things work when the balloon goes up. It seems that we ought to be able to have a more seamless integration with at least the one or two key agencies served. What do others think? Len PS. In the meanwhile, since I can't control the agencies served--and maybe not influence the amateur community all that much--the best thing I can do is to personally have the power cables and adapters in my own go bag.... jarvis@jarviscomputer.com wrote: > Hi Len, > > I hate to seem like a nay sayer completely, but I think each amateur > should be doing the prep themselves. If each amateur has about 4 > adapters, plus wire cutter/strippers/crimpers and the following adapters I > think they will be prepared. > > 1. power pole to 1/4 inch luggs (for hooking directly to power supplies. > 2. power pole to molex. > 3. power pole to spade connectors. > 4. power pole to bare wire. > > plus a few spare power poles. > > Problem with prepositioning is gaining access. If there are down in the > EOC are we going to have access to them if we need them somewhere elese. > Also how are we going to keep them from having legs on moving away from > that area? > > Clare > From jj at aprsworld.com Thu Sep 4 14:02:57 2008 From: jj at aprsworld.com (James Jarvis) Date: Thu Sep 4 14:02:58 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update - Wednesday In-Reply-To: <1251.205.243.115.83.1220530148.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> References: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> <1251.205.243.115.83.1220530148.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> Message-ID: <48BFEA91.30401@aprsworld.com> jarvis@jarviscomputer.com wrote: > I am working this weekend and will not be able to adjust levels. I have > the deviation meter at my house but some one should pick it up today. > The meter reading should only be made when a dtmf tone is being > transmitted. I checked the 64 and it is spot on. I'm in town this weekend and can operate the meter. -James Jefferson Jarvis APRS World, LLC +1-507-454-2727 www.aprsworld.com From wkelly at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 15:27:01 2008 From: wkelly at hbci.com (Walt Kelly) Date: Thu Sep 4 15:27:00 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <20080904152800.602331B6F1@mail.hbci.com> Len and group, I have been of the opinion that we provide communications among groups that do not normally communicate (by radio) with each other. We do not operate their equipment, nor do they operate ours. We don't take crimpers and soldering irons to their equipment or vice versa. Public service agencies buy equipment and maintenance services from radio professionals who know their systems and have the equipment to maintain them. I don't think they would be responsive to suggestions that they modify their power plugs to match ours instead of Motorola's. How many times do they need to hook up to our stuff compared to the number of times they hook up to Motorola stuff? Our mission is to be able to assist them in talking to each other - using our own equipment. We have to be sure we can do that. If among us we want compatibility, that is one thing, making their equipment compatible with ours is a way different issue. The 800 MHz business is close to being a done-deal - a multi-million dollar deal. Supposedly it will give them "interoperability" and might reduce their need for our services. My bet is that we will still be needed to be there with a working communications system separate from theirs. They will have a computer-controlled, digital, fully "integrated" system on a band that needs lots of mega-buck repeaters with a full time system administrator to keep it running. On the other hand, we are an ad-hoc group that can set up and go on a very informal basis. That would make "seamless integration with at least the one or two key agencies served" very tough to accomplish. Walt -----Original Message----- From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On Behalf Of Len Litvan Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:18 AM To: jarvis@jarviscomputer.com; W0NE Listserv Subject: Re: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies Hi Clare, You are absolutely correct about the power cables and adapters we all should have in our "go bags". I added the specific items below to the Wiki in the section about emergency communications. Good subject for a Sunday night net also. Incidentally, these specific items are included in the cable set which is part of the club Power Pole transition project. The project is a good deal (price) for hams wanting to be prepared to help when the chips are down. Somehow, however, I still believe we are not helping make an integrated system for emergency communications--integrated with the service agencies we support at the most fundamental level. It seems that amateurs do our thing--the agencies served do their thing--and we take lots of diagonal cutting pliers, crimpers/solder, and lots of adapters & wires (and time) to make things work when the balloon goes up. It seems that we ought to be able to have a more seamless integration with at least the one or two key agencies served. What do others think? Len PS. In the meanwhile, since I can't control the agencies served--and maybe not influence the amateur community all that much--the best thing I can do is to personally have the power cables and adapters in my own go bag.... From dgoltz at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 19:39:45 2008 From: dgoltz at hbci.com (Daniel Goltz) Date: Thu Sep 4 20:17:40 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <20080904152800.602331B6F1@mail.hbci.com> References: <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.1.20080904143253.01ef90b0@pop3.hbci.com> Walt you are right, the public service equipment at the LEC is under contract and the amateur equipment at the LEC is installed and not likely to have to be taken out. There is enough redundancy at the LEC that there would be little need to bring in more amateur equipment. What is important is that we are compatible with the Sheriff's trailer power supply system and antennas, and other amateur applications, including the hospital. Dan, WK0W Daniel L. Goltz 702 Spring Brook Dr. Winona, MN 55987 From dgoltz at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 16:47:33 2008 From: dgoltz at hbci.com (Daniel Goltz) Date: Thu Sep 4 20:27:10 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <20080904152800.602331B6F1@mail.hbci.com> References: <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.1.20080904114044.01f10b28@pop3.hbci.com> Hi group. Walt is right. The LEC equipment is under contract and we don't want to tamper with that. The ham equipment at the LEC is installed and will not be leaving there. What we do want to do is check out the Sheriff's trailer and make sure we have compatability there, and within our own equipment so we can use existing power supplies and antennas. Dan WK0W. At 10:27 AM 9/4/2008 -0500, Walt Kelly wrote: >Len and group, > >I have been of the opinion that we provide communications among groups that >do not normally communicate (by radio) with each other. We do not operate >their equipment, nor do they operate ours. We don't take crimpers and >soldering irons to their equipment or vice versa. > >Public service agencies buy equipment and maintenance services from radio >professionals who know their systems and have the equipment to maintain >them. I don't think they would be responsive to suggestions that they modify >their power plugs to match ours instead of Motorola's. How many times do >they need to hook up to our stuff compared to the number of times they hook >up to Motorola stuff? > >Our mission is to be able to assist them in talking to each other - using >our own equipment. We have to be sure we can do that. If among us we want >compatibility, that is one thing, making their equipment compatible with >ours is a way different issue. > >The 800 MHz business is close to being a done-deal - a multi-million dollar >deal. Supposedly it will give them "interoperability" and might reduce their >need for our services. My bet is that we will still be needed to be there >with a working communications system separate from theirs. They will have a >computer-controlled, digital, fully "integrated" system on a band that needs >lots of mega-buck repeaters with a full time system administrator to keep it >running. > >On the other hand, we are an ad-hoc group that can set up and go on a very >informal basis. That would make "seamless integration with at least the one >or two key agencies served" very tough to accomplish. > > >Walt > >-----Original Message----- >From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On >Behalf Of Len Litvan >Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:18 AM >To: jarvis@jarviscomputer.com; W0NE Listserv >Subject: Re: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies > >Hi Clare, > >You are absolutely correct about the power cables and adapters we all >should have in our "go bags". I added the specific items below to the >Wiki in the section about emergency communications. Good subject for a >Sunday night net also. > >Incidentally, these specific items are included in the cable set which >is part of the club Power Pole transition project. The project is a >good deal (price) for hams wanting to be prepared to help when the chips >are down. > >Somehow, however, I still believe we are not helping make an integrated >system for emergency communications--integrated with the service >agencies we support at the most fundamental level. It seems that >amateurs do our thing--the agencies served do their thing--and we take >lots of diagonal cutting pliers, crimpers/solder, and lots of adapters & >wires (and time) to make things work when the balloon goes up. It seems >that we ought to be able to have a more seamless integration with at >least the one or two key agencies served. > >What do others think? > >Len > >PS. In the meanwhile, since I can't control the agencies served--and >maybe not influence the amateur community all that much--the best thing >I can do is to personally have the power cables and adapters in my own >go bag.... > >_______________________________________________ >WARC mailing list >WARC@lists.w0ne.org >http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1651 - Release Date: 9/4/2008 >6:57 AM Daniel L. Goltz 702 Spring Brook Dr. Winona, MN 55987 From rmarsole at luminet.net Thu Sep 4 17:06:42 2008 From: rmarsole at luminet.net (Russell Marsolek) Date: Thu Sep 4 20:47:01 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies In-Reply-To: <20080904152800.602331B6F1@mail.hbci.com> References: <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> <20080904152800.602331B6F1@mail.hbci.com> Message-ID: <003601c90eb0$9ab9f180$d02dd480$@net> Well said... RLM / N0QK -----Original Message----- From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On Behalf Of Walt Kelly Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:27 AM To: Litvan@acegroup.cc; 'Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion' Subject: RE: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies Len and group, I have been of the opinion that we provide communications among groups that do not normally communicate (by radio) with each other. We do not operate their equipment, nor do they operate ours. We don't take crimpers and soldering irons to their equipment or vice versa. Public service agencies buy equipment and maintenance services from radio professionals who know their systems and have the equipment to maintain them. I don't think they would be responsive to suggestions that they modify their power plugs to match ours instead of Motorola's. How many times do they need to hook up to our stuff compared to the number of times they hook up to Motorola stuff? Our mission is to be able to assist them in talking to each other - using our own equipment. We have to be sure we can do that. If among us we want compatibility, that is one thing, making their equipment compatible with ours is a way different issue. The 800 MHz business is close to being a done-deal - a multi-million dollar deal. Supposedly it will give them "interoperability" and might reduce their need for our services. My bet is that we will still be needed to be there with a working communications system separate from theirs. They will have a computer-controlled, digital, fully "integrated" system on a band that needs lots of mega-buck repeaters with a full time system administrator to keep it running. On the other hand, we are an ad-hoc group that can set up and go on a very informal basis. That would make "seamless integration with at least the one or two key agencies served" very tough to accomplish. Walt -----Original Message----- From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On Behalf Of Len Litvan Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:18 AM To: jarvis@jarviscomputer.com; W0NE Listserv Subject: Re: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies Hi Clare, You are absolutely correct about the power cables and adapters we all should have in our "go bags". I added the specific items below to the Wiki in the section about emergency communications. Good subject for a Sunday night net also. Incidentally, these specific items are included in the cable set which is part of the club Power Pole transition project. The project is a good deal (price) for hams wanting to be prepared to help when the chips are down. Somehow, however, I still believe we are not helping make an integrated system for emergency communications--integrated with the service agencies we support at the most fundamental level. It seems that amateurs do our thing--the agencies served do their thing--and we take lots of diagonal cutting pliers, crimpers/solder, and lots of adapters & wires (and time) to make things work when the balloon goes up. It seems that we ought to be able to have a more seamless integration with at least the one or two key agencies served. What do others think? Len PS. In the meanwhile, since I can't control the agencies served--and maybe not influence the amateur community all that much--the best thing I can do is to personally have the power cables and adapters in my own go bag.... _______________________________________________ WARC mailing list WARC@lists.w0ne.org http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From clarej at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 23:08:24 2008 From: clarej at hbci.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Thu Sep 4 23:08:59 2008 Subject: [WARC] 835 Update - Wednesday In-Reply-To: <48BFEA91.30401@aprsworld.com> References: <20080904040133.AABA51B732@mail.hbci.com> <1251.205.243.115.83.1220530148.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> <48BFEA91.30401@aprsworld.com> Message-ID: <200809041808.25004.clarej@hbci.com> to All, Ken, N0JP, has the deviation meter. Clare On Thursday 04 September 2008 09:02:57 James Jarvis wrote: > jarvis@jarviscomputer.com wrote: > > I am working this weekend and will not be able to adjust levels. I have > > the deviation meter at my house but some one should pick it up today. > > The meter reading should only be made when a dtmf tone is being > > transmitted. I checked the 64 and it is spot on. > > I'm in town this weekend and can operate the meter. > > -James Jefferson Jarvis > APRS World, LLC > +1-507-454-2727 > www.aprsworld.com > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From clarej at hbci.com Thu Sep 4 23:14:32 2008 From: clarej at hbci.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Thu Sep 4 23:15:12 2008 Subject: [WARC] deviation meter Message-ID: <200809041814.33098.clarej@hbci.com> My deviation meter is at ken's house (N0JP). I took it over there before Jim (KB0THN) said that he would be available. So, Jim if you are going to operate it this weekend then we need to go over to Ken's to pick it up. clare (K0NY) From lhittner at hbci.com Fri Sep 5 01:20:47 2008 From: lhittner at hbci.com (Leslie Hittner) Date: Fri Sep 5 01:20:57 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies References: <48BD5538.2040403@acegroup.cc><200809021031.30510.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com><48BE0360.2030605@acegroup.cc><1155.205.243.115.83.1220445083.squirrel@mail.jarviscomputer.com> <48BFE014.7000401@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <002701c90ef5$a0393590$1a02a8c0@eulalia> Hmmm...What are we integrating at the served agencies? If they have installed equipment, as the LEC/EOC does, it makes no difference (unless, I suppose, if there is an equipment failure). For the most part, we are putting our own equipment together at an outstation location. That's where we need to be able to plug into each other's stuff. And the served agency most likely doesn't have anything there. -Les, K0BAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Litvan" To: ; "W0NE Listserv" Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WARC] Power Pole Transition - Supported Agencies > Hi Clare, > > You are absolutely correct about the power cables and adapters we all > should have in our "go bags". I added the specific items below to the > Wiki in the section about emergency communications. Good subject for a > Sunday night net also. > > Incidentally, these specific items are included in the cable set which > is part of the club Power Pole transition project. The project is a > good deal (price) for hams wanting to be prepared to help when the chips > are down. > > Somehow, however, I still believe we are not helping make an integrated > system for emergency communications--integrated with the service > agencies we support at the most fundamental level. It seems that > amateurs do our thing--the agencies served do their thing--and we take > lots of diagonal cutting pliers, crimpers/solder, and lots of adapters & > wires (and time) to make things work when the balloon goes up. It seems > that we ought to be able to have a more seamless integration with at > least the one or two key agencies served. > > What do others think? > > Len > > PS. In the meanwhile, since I can't control the agencies served--and > maybe not influence the amateur community all that much--the best thing > I can do is to personally have the power cables and adapters in my own > go bag.... > > jarvis@jarviscomputer.com wrote: > > Hi Len, > > > > I hate to seem like a nay sayer completely, but I think each amateur > > should be doing the prep themselves. If each amateur has about 4 > > adapters, plus wire cutter/strippers/crimpers and the following adapters I > > think they will be prepared. > > > > 1. power pole to 1/4 inch luggs (for hooking directly to power supplies. > > 2. power pole to molex. > > 3. power pole to spade connectors. > > 4. power pole to bare wire. > > > > plus a few spare power poles. > > > > Problem with prepositioning is gaining access. If there are down in the > > EOC are we going to have access to them if we need them somewhere elese. > > Also how are we going to keep them from having legs on moving away from > > that area? > > > > Clare > > > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1651 - Release Date: 9/4/2008 6:57 AM From Litvan at acegroup.cc Mon Sep 8 00:46:23 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Mon Sep 8 00:45:59 2008 Subject: [WARC] [Fwd: [La Crosse Hams] October 2008 Fox Hunt] Message-ID: <48C475DF.30105@acegroup.cc> See the information below. Len KC0RSX -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [La Crosse Hams] October 2008 Fox Hunt Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:41:19 -0500 From: Rick W. To: Vernon-ARES@yahoogroups.com, "lacrossehams@qth.com" The Vernon County Amateur Radio Club will be hosting a fox hunt activity on Saturday, October 18. Prior to the Fox Hunt, we will be having our regular meeting at 10 AM, which will include an SET activity, followed by a Pot Luck noon meal. You are all invited to attend any of these activities. We meet at the the Erlandson Building, 318 Fairlane Drive. When coming to Viroqua from the north on Highway 14, turn left (East) at the first stop light by Sleepy Hollow Auto Sales to County BB. Go just past the Vernon Manor Nursing home on your left and turn left (North) to the Erlandson Building. Access via the SE basement entrance. Hope to see you there. 73, Rick, KV9U _______________________________________________ LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com From clarej at hbci.com Sat Sep 13 00:12:11 2008 From: clarej at hbci.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Sat Sep 13 00:13:25 2008 Subject: [WARC] visiting the 835 Message-ID: <200809121912.11726.clarej@hbci.com> I will be available in the morning of Saturday. Somebody please let me know if you need my help. Clare From ewbrom at hbci.com Sat Sep 13 00:17:55 2008 From: ewbrom at hbci.com (Erik Brom) Date: Sat Sep 13 00:18:12 2008 Subject: [WARC] visiting the 835 In-Reply-To: <200809121912.11726.clarej@hbci.com> References: <200809121912.11726.clarej@hbci.com> Message-ID: <20080913001804.6F3861B6D7@mail.hbci.com> Hi Clare, Lance and I were talking about that. I would not be able to go because I have to be at the Amtrak depot around 10:45, and I don't want to take a risk of being late. We figured Sunday afternoon would work. The other approach would be if the expedition could be made without me. It *should* only require installing the equipment, since its been working together here. The only thing that needs to be done is the battery connection where you had the APO needs to be spliced back together. We can use the APO eventually, but we need to rethink the wiring a bit, and also get it set to about 10.5V. Erik At 07:12 PM 09/12/08, you wrote: >I will be available in the morning of Saturday. Somebody please let me know >if you need my help. > > >Clare >_______________________________________________ >WARC mailing list >WARC@lists.w0ne.org >http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From clarej at hbci.com Sat Sep 13 00:21:11 2008 From: clarej at hbci.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Sat Sep 13 00:22:22 2008 Subject: [WARC] visiting the 835 In-Reply-To: <20080913001804.6F3861B6D7@mail.hbci.com> References: <200809121912.11726.clarej@hbci.com> <20080913001804.6F3861B6D7@mail.hbci.com> Message-ID: <200809121921.11354.clarej@hbci.com> Sunday afternoon (later) probably works for me. Clare On Friday 12 September 2008 19:17:55 Erik Brom wrote: > Hi Clare, > Lance and I were talking about that. I would not be able to go > because I have to be at the Amtrak depot around 10:45, and I don't > want to take a risk of being late. We figured Sunday afternoon would > work. The other approach would be if the expedition could be made > without me. It *should* only require installing the equipment, since > its been working together here. > > The only thing that needs to be done is the battery connection where > you had the APO needs to be spliced back together. We can use the > APO eventually, but we need to rethink the wiring a bit, and also get > it set to about 10.5V. > > Erik > > At 07:12 PM 09/12/08, you wrote: > >I will be available in the morning of Saturday. Somebody please let me > > know if you need my help. > > > > > >Clare > >_______________________________________________ > >WARC mailing list > >WARC@lists.w0ne.org > >http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sat Sep 13 12:31:59 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sat Sep 13 12:31:55 2008 Subject: [WARC] GENERAL CLASS LICENSING COURSE Message-ID: <48CBB2BF.4000703@acegroup.cc> The Winona Amateur Radio Club is sponsoring a General Class licensing course to run from early October to mid-November. The course will be conducted Monday evenings from 6:00 to 9:00 PM beginning on October 6 and ending on November 10. A licensing test session is being planned for November 17. The course and license testing will be held at the Bluffview Montessori School, 1321 Gilmore Avenue Winona, MN. The course will include a copy of the ARRL General Class License Manual and other materials. Cost for the course will be $24.95 for the License Manual to be paid at the first course session. In addition, the current cost for VE license testing is $14.00 to be paid at the time of the license exam. Interested persons should register for the course no later than September 26 by contacting Len Litvan KC0RSX at KC0RSX@arrl.net , or at (507) 643-6057, or by mail at 25567 Miner Valley Road, Winona, MN 55987. For any questions regarding the course or license testing please contact Len via the above means. Please pass this information along to hams in your area who might be interested in upgrading at this time. Thanks & 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sat Sep 13 16:03:18 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sat Sep 13 16:03:28 2008 Subject: [WARC] WARD - September Program - September 18 Message-ID: <48CBE446.7070103@acegroup.cc> The September program of the Winona Amateur Radio Club will feature a plant tour of APRS World LLC followed by a presentation related to assembly of Power Pole connectors. APRS World, located at 902 East 2nd Street Suite 320 in Winona, specializes in designing and building data logging and control equipment primarily for the renewable energy industry. The plant tour will showcase commercial electronics and mechanical production methods. The program following the tour will cover assembly techniques and tips for Power Pole connectors, the new ARES standard power connector. The program will held at APRS World?s facility and will begin at 7:00 PM Thursday, September 18. A short business meeting is planned after the program. All amateur radio operators and other interested persons are encouraged to attend. It is not necessary to be a member of the Winona Amateur Radio Club to participate. For additional information about the Winona Amateur Radio Club, see the club website at www.w0ne.org. Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sat Sep 13 22:29:02 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sat Sep 13 22:29:23 2008 Subject: [WARC] Power Pole Orders - September 19 Deadline Message-ID: <48CC3EAE.40308@acegroup.cc> Hello All, The WARC program to provide Power Pole connector kits and cable/adapter sets will be coming to a close this week. Please get your orders in by Friday, Sep. 19. We will be ordering needed components at that time and putting the kits together soon afterwards. The order form is available on the club website, www.W0NE.org . Shipping is now available for those who cannot pick up their orders at APRS World in Winona. Thanks to the eight hams who have already placed their orders. Please contact me with any questions. 73, Len KC0RSX@arrl.net From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Sep 19 22:43:00 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Sep 19 22:43:07 2008 Subject: [WARC] New Ham Radio Store in Rochester Message-ID: <48D42AF4.7090006@acegroup.cc> Hi All, Tony W0IU reported at the club program last night that there is a new ham radio store in Rochester. =-O Some details are on their website, www.hamradioinc.com . It might be possible that I would pay the store a visit Saturday. If I do, I'll give you a report. 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Sep 19 23:08:44 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Sep 19 23:08:47 2008 Subject: [WARC] VHF Radio Station for Sale! Message-ID: <48D430FC.5000904@acegroup.cc> Tony W0IU indicated last night that he has a complete 2 meter radio station for sale--with briefcase. According to my notes, it contains: - ICOM 2200 H transceiver - UT 108 DTMS - Astron 25M switching power supply - Larsen dual band mag mount antenna - Metal plate for a ground plane - Briefcase Tony was reeling off the contents and features so fast, I'm sure I didn't get it all. I'm sure there is a mic with the station but didn't write it down. He said that the station was fully operational and had experienced little use (back-up emergency station). He is asking $285 for the the lot. Tony doesn't have access to e-mail. Perhaps the best way to contact him about additional details would be the Wabash repeater, which he monitors frequently. 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sun Sep 21 00:44:35 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sun Sep 21 00:44:37 2008 Subject: [WARC] WARC Power Pole Project Summary Message-ID: <48D598F3.2040208@acegroup.cc> The WARC project to support the transition to Power Pole connectors has gone well. The period for submitting orders closed yesterday with a total of 12 orders including one large group order from the Hiawatha Valley Club in Red Wing. Orders were also received from hams in Eau Claire and La Crosse. Thanks to all who ordered Power Poles through this project. Maybe this improvement will make us more effective the next time an emergency arises. Jim KB0THN informed me that all the components were placed on order with suppliers as of yesterday. We will be sure to inform anyone who submitted orders when the items ordered are available. For those who selected direct shipment, orders will be shipped as soon as available. A special thanks again to Jim KB0THN for making the connectors available at OEM cost through his company, APRS World LLC. Thanks also to Russ N0QK for the donation of Molex connectors for the adapters which were part of the cable set. 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sun Sep 21 02:12:31 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sun Sep 21 02:12:39 2008 Subject: [WARC] General Class Licensing Course Message-ID: <48D5AD8F.3090903@acegroup.cc> Well, the Winona Daily News finally published the news release regarding the club-sponsored General Class licensing course, but it was edited pretty heavily. Here is a more complete version. Please encourage your Technician acquaintances to take advantage of this opportunity to upgrade. Please note that THE REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS THIS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26. Sincerely & 73, Len KC0RSX ///////////////////// The Winona Amateur Radio Club is sponsoring a General Class licensing course to run from early October to mid-November. The course will be conducted Monday evenings from 6:00 to 9:00 PM beginning on October 6 and ending on November 10. A licensing test session is being planned for November 17. The course and license testing will be held at the Bluffview Montessori School, 1321 Gilmore Avenue Winona, MN. As usual, licensing exams will be available for other Technician and Amateur Extra also. The course will include a copy of the ARRL General Class License Manual and other materials. The three instructors for the course are ARRL registered instructors. Cost for the course will be $24.95 for the License Manual to be paid at the first course session. In addition, the current cost for VE license testing is $14.00 to be paid at the time of the license exam. Interested persons should register for the course NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 26 by contacting Len Litvan KC0RSX at KC0RSX@arrl.net or at (507) 643-6057, or by mail at 25567 Miner Valley Road, Winona, MN 55987. For any questions regarding the course or license testing please contact Len via the above means. Please pass this information along to your technician acquaintances who might be interested in upgrading at this time. Thanks & 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Sep 26 01:44:32 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Sep 26 01:44:36 2008 Subject: [WARC] General Class Licensing Course - Registration Deadline September 26 (Friday) Message-ID: <48DC3E80.40400@acegroup.cc> Hello, If anyone else is intending to register for the General Class course, please register through me by tomorrow, Friday, September 26, so that proper planning can be accomplished on a timely basis. Thanks. Sincerely, Len KC0RSX From rmarsole at luminet.net Fri Sep 26 04:57:54 2008 From: rmarsole at luminet.net (Russell Marsolek) Date: Fri Sep 26 04:57:59 2008 Subject: [WARC] General Class Licensing Course - Registration Deadline September 26 (Friday) In-Reply-To: <48DC3E80.40400@acegroup.cc> References: <48DC3E80.40400@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <001501c91f94$709f2ab0$51dd8010$@net> How many do you have thus far? RLM / N0QK -----Original Message----- From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On Behalf Of Len Litvan Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:45 PM To: W0NE Listserv Subject: [WARC] General Class Licensing Course - Registration Deadline September 26 (Friday) Hello, If anyone else is intending to register for the General Class course, please register through me by tomorrow, Friday, September 26, so that proper planning can be accomplished on a timely basis. Thanks. Sincerely, Len KC0RSX _______________________________________________ WARC mailing list WARC@lists.w0ne.org http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sun Sep 28 21:35:55 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sun Sep 28 21:36:03 2008 Subject: [WARC] General Class Licensing Course Message-ID: <48DFF8BB.1070201@acegroup.cc> It appears that there will be five students for the General Class licensing course. Materials will be ordered Monday AM. The current ARRL General Class License Manual is the 6th edition, 2007. If anyone else wants to participate, please let me know tonight or early Monday morning. Use KC0RSX@arrl.net Thanks & 73, Len KC0RSX ///////////////////// The Winona Amateur Radio Club is sponsoring a General Class licensing course to run from early October to mid-November. The course will be conducted Monday evenings from 6:00 to 9:00 PM beginning on October 6 and ending on November 10. A licensing test session is being planned for November 17. The course and license testing will be held at the Bluffview Montessori School, 1321 Gilmore Avenue Winona, MN. As usual, licensing exams will be available for other Technician and Amateur Extra also. The course will include a copy of the ARRL General Class License Manual and other materials. The three instructors for the course are ARRL registered instructors. Cost for the course will be $24.95 for the License Manual to be paid at the first course session. In addition, the current cost for VE license testing is $14.00 to be paid at the time of the license exam. Interested persons should register for the course NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 26 by contacting Len Litvan KC0RSX at KC0RSX@arrl.net or at (507) 643-6057, or by mail at 25567 Miner Valley Road, Winona, MN 55987. For any questions regarding the course or license testing please contact Len via the above means. Please pass this information along to your technician acquaintances who might be interested in upgrading at this time. Thanks & 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sun Sep 28 21:46:29 2008 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sun Sep 28 21:46:56 2008 Subject: [WARC] VHF Radio Station for Sale - Contact Information! Message-ID: <48DFFB35.50001@acegroup.cc> Hello All, I spoke with Tony on Friday night via the Wabasha repeater. The VHF station is still available. Tony's phone number is (651) 564-0845 and mailing address is Anthony E Lynch,932 Larson Drive, Zumbrota MN 55992. Len KC0RSX //////// Tony W0IU indicated last night that he has a complete 2 meter radio station for sale--with briefcase. According to my notes, it contains: - ICOM IC-2200H transceiver W/mic (65 watts max., 207 memories) - UT-108 DTMF decoder - Astron 25M switching power supply - Larsen dual band mag mount antenna - Metal plate for a ground plane - Briefcase Tony was reeling off the contents and features so fast, I'm sure I didn't get it all. He said that the station was fully operational and had experienced little use (back-up emergency station). He is asking $285 for the the lot. Tony doesn't have access to e-mail. Perhaps the best way to contact him about additional details would be the Wabash repeater, which he monitors frequently. 73, Len KC0RSX