[WARC] EComm is Changing

Sat Oct 31 02:28:34 GMT 2009

Good point, Clare.

-Les

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From: "Clare Jarvis" <jarvis at jarviscomputer.com>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WARC] EComm is Changing

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>> So, if I am on an emcomm drill or emergency and shadowing a paid person
>> in a participating emergency (e.g., assistant Fire Chief), I can pass my
>> HT to the person and have him/her talk direct to a counterpart in
>> another agency if the person being shadowed by me is not a licensed
>> amateur, but I cannot do it if the person is a licensed amateur?
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> I think you can hand your ht to anybody at any time whether they are =

> licnesed or not because
> they are not the operator.  You are still the control operator and they =

> are not operating the radio.
> You are standing right there and using your call sign.   This is not an =

> issue.
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> de Clare K0ny
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> On Friday 30 October 2009 08:45:27 Len Litvan wrote:
>> So I guess this interpretation means that (pertaining to
>> disaster/emergency communications):
>>
>>  - A licensed amateur may not transmit on amateur frequencies via a
>> station located in a hospital or other place where she/he is employed
>> (incl. county EOC).
>>  - A licensed amateur may not transmit on amateur frequencies via a
>> station other than where she/he is employed while on the clock (e.g.,
>> disaster site).  [see below]
>>  - A licensed amateur who is a paid person on the staff of a relief
>> agency may not transmit on amateur frequencies in relation to an
>> emergency or other relief service related to the agency's activities
>> even when not on the clock (e.g., Red Cross).
>>
>> So, if I am on an emcomm drill or emergency and shadowing a paid person
>> in a participating emergency (e.g., assistant Fire Chief), I can pass my
>> HT to the person and have him/her talk direct to a counterpart in
>> another agency if the person being shadowed by me is not a licensed
>> amateur, but I cannot do it if the person is a licensed amateur?
>>
>> The reference to "station licensee" in the interpretation is also
>> interesting.  Who is the "station licensee" of the amateur transmitters
>> in the EOC and other spots around Winona?
>>
>> Do unpaid personnel (first responders, I guess) receive any funding or
>> property for personal use as a part of their volunteer work (equipment,
>> including personal protective equipment, or clothing )?  Is this
>> pecuniary interest?
>>
>> Seems like it might be worth while to get a clarification of the
>> interpretation.  If you agree, let me know and I will start
>> something--probably through the ARRL (although I am sure they are
>> inundated with requests for clarification already).
>>
>> Thanks Jim, for alerting us on this interpretation.
>>
>> Sincerely & 73,
>> Len  KC0RSX
>> President
>> Winona Amateur Radio Club, Inc.
>>
>> Jim Brown wrote:
>> > Below is from Amateur Radio Newsline.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > RENFORCEMENT: HAM EXPLAINS WHY HES QUITTING EMMCOMM AT WORK
>> >
>> > A ham who posted on an Internet website that he had assisted in an
>> > emergency communications drill at work has come forward to explain why
>> > he was contacted about his action by FCC ham radio rules enforcer
>> > Laura Smith. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, has more:
>> >
>> > In his posting to the QRZ.com website, Jeffery Casselberry, W0WLS,
>> > says that last July he volunteered to take part in a state sanctioned
>> > communication drill which was backed by the Missouri Hospital
>> > Association. At that time he was the only licensed amateur in the
>> > facility so he said yes.
>> >
>> > According to Casselberry this drill took place during business hours
>> > while he was on the clock. He explained that he had built the amateur
>> > station for the hospital and with it the facility better than most in
>> > communicating locally and to the state capital.
>> >
>> > W0WLS went on to say that he was so thrilled about the drills success
>> > that what he made what he terms as the mistake of posting his
>> > excitement on the QRZ website. Someone who read it decided to cut and
>> > paste his comments and send them off to the FCC. As a result, W0WLS
>> > says that he received an informal email from the FCC's Smith
>> > acknowledging his violation and requesting a response.
>> >
>> > Casselberry says that he responded to Smith and explained in detail
>> > the events of his alleged violation. Smith responded with the
>> > following e-mail which reads as follows and we quote:
>> >
>> > "Jeff: Again, just so we are clear, Section 97.113 (a)(3) of the
>> > Commission's rules specifically states that "no amateur station shall
>> > transmit: communications in which the station licensee or control
>> > operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf
>> > of an employer." This means that if you are an employee of the
>> > hospital you may not operate the amateur equipment on their behalf
>> > even after hours or while you are on a break. The operation of the
>> > amateur equipment must be conducted strictly by volunteers." -- end
>> > quote.
>> >
>> > Casselberry went on to say that he does not want to become a poster
>> > child for some emergency communications cause on QRZ.com. He says that
>> > he is done with this type of ham radio activity and it will never
>> > happen again. He's even gone so far as to tell his employer that he is
>> > done with this type of radio activity and will take no further part in
>> > it's emergency communications program.
>> >
>> > W0WLS ends by noting that he is a hobbyist and don't need this sort of
>> > turmoil in my life. As such, he will make no further comments on this
>> > issue.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > /*/Jim Brown/*//*/ N0WE/*/
>> >
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