From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 1 22:19:46 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 1 22:19:38 2010 Subject: [WARC] FREE - HP Black Ink Cartridge - #92 Message-ID: <4B3E7502.5090002@acegroup.cc> Hello all, We just replaced a computer printer here and ended up with an NEW orphaned HP ink cartridge as a result--a #92 black cartridge. Still in the sealed bag. Free to the first person speaking for it. Let me know and I will bring it to breakfast at The Timbers tomorrow. Hope you are all having a warm and happy new year's day. Good contacts on the Straight Key Century Club fourth anniversary event today--California to France (nothing to the south of the USA however). 73, Len From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sun Jan 3 22:36:31 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sun Jan 3 22:36:34 2010 Subject: [WARC] REMINDER - Ham Radio Licensing Course Begins in January Message-ID: <4B411BEF.2040307@acegroup.cc> The Winona Amateur Radio Club is sponsoring an amateur radio licensing course to run from late January to early March 2010. _Dates_: Classes ? Six consecutive Monday evenings -- January 25 through March 1, 2010. License testing session -- Monday, March 8 (open to the public). _Time_: Classes -- 6:00 to 9:00 PM. Licensing session -- 7:00 PM. _Place_: Bluffview Montessori School, 1321 Gilmore Avenue, Winona, MN. _Cost_: $24.95 for the ARRL Ham Radio License Manual to be paid at the first course session. This fee is waived for those who provide their own copy of the current manual. In addition there is a $15.00 license examination fee to be paid at the time of the exam. _Registration Deadline_: Friday, Jan 15, 2010. Register by contacting Len Litvan at KC?RSX@arrl.net , or at (507) 643-6057, or by mail at 25567 Miner Valley Road, Winona, MN 55987. No Morse code test is required for amateur radio licenses. For any questions regarding the course or license testing please contact Len Litvan via the above means. For additional information about the Winona Amateur Radio Club, please see the club website at www.w?ne.org . For LOTS of information about amateur radio in general, see the American Radio Relay League web page at www.hello-radio.org/ . Sincerely, Len Litvan From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 6 13:43:21 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 6 13:43:52 2010 Subject: [WARC] 144 SSB nets *ON* tonight Message-ID: Here's the reminder that the nets are on tonight. Start 2010 by hearing how loud WB9LYH is on 144.240. WB9LYH EN54cl (central WI) is on from 0100-0230Z. He starts out looking E toward MI and then goes clockwise, calling CQ frequently. He tends to look S about 0120-40; SW about 0130-50; W about 0140-0200 and NW and N about 0210-0230. All times approximate. Know that we encourage lots of activity down from the net frequency. It's far better to have multiple guys/gals on the band, calling CQ in various directions. So QSY down to 144.230 or lower to create your own activity. I am on 144.250 at 0230Z. I start out by getting caught up with some Milwaukee/Chicago locals, and then swing clockwise from there. We will be on the www.on4kst.com real-time chat for V/UHF, letting folks know where WB9LYH is pointing and who he's working. You are certainly welcome to use the chat to stir up your own activity. 7 simple steps to sign up to this free, no-obligation chat are on my website at http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1072 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 6 14:21:05 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 6 14:21:38 2010 Subject: [WARC] Remember the ARRL Jan VHF Contest from last year? Message-ID: The ARRL Jan VHF Sweepstakes is Jan 23-24th. http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2010/jan-vhf-ss.html Just like last January, there is a nice-looking plaque on the line. The father/son team of W9HQ/KC9JTL in Vernon County won it last year. Who will win the plaque this year? More about the plaque in a future email. What you folks in SW, W-Central WI and far SE MN need to do right now is get the troops stirred up. You know your local club buddies far better than I do. Be friendly, encouraging, and let anyone (regardless of individual club affiliation) in your entire area know to save some time on Jan 23-24th to play radio. I am a firm believer that many hams can enjoy a V/UHF contest if they give it a try. Toward that goal, I encourage newer guys and gals to Get On With Whatever They Have. Since 60-80% of the contest activity is on common bands like 6 and 2m (70cm, too) many of you are able to participate. Even if your station is FM-only, you have a numbers advant- age if you spread the word in your region. Talk up the contest and then get on the air Jan 23-24. We've had good success around WI getting FM'ers to call "CQ Contest" and some have now improved their station, added bands, or SSB capability. In the Jan QST, on Pg. 79, there's a great article about FM simplex being a good training ground for VHF contesters. Check it out and see if it motivates you. It has some nice publicity for Milwaukee's MRAC club, who sponsors an FM simplex contest every February. 146.55 and 146.58 FM simplex is customarily used in contests. 52.525 on 6m FM; 223.500 on 1.25m FM and 446.000 on 70cm FM. We will again be focusing the FM activity toward (roughly) 3-6pm on Sat. and 7-9am on Sunday. If you want to know more about how to "do" a VHF contest, I've got a ton of info on my website. I'll be updating it this week, but if you want immediate results, go to posts dated June 7th on my blog. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 6 15:11:01 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 6 15:11:36 2010 Subject: [WARC] How to win a plaque on Jan 23-24 Message-ID: Last January, we had very strong activity from your area in the ARRL Jan. VHF Sweepstakes. SSB and FM stations created activity that got the airwaves busy. I offered to sponsor a traveling plaque if the entire SW WI, West Central WI, and far SE MN areas turned out enough activity. You folks met that criteria and from the entries, the plaque for the single highest scorer among smaller gun stations went to KC9JTL, who contested with his father, W9HQ. The same offer stands this year. Here are the terms: 1) There will have to be at least 10 different operators on from your area. This is defined as SW WI up to far SE MN. Please strive to get more than 10 ops on. Last year, I saw at least 20+ different calls involved. That was an amazing turnout -- great job! The more who try this, the more fun it will be. 2) Each of those 10 (or more!) operators must make at least 15 contacts in the contest. This is to ensure folks give a decent effort. No getting on, making a few contacts with a neighbor and saying, "That's good enough, I'm done". 3) The 15 or more contacts can be SSB, CW or FM. They can be on any VHF band from 6 meters (50 MHz) right on up thru 144, 222 or 432/440 MHz. It is fine to work someone on all the bands they have in common with you. This is encouraged. 4) After the contest, I will need to see logs to verify that conditions #1 and #2 were met. If they are, then the single highest scorer (from the smaller station category) will win the plaque for 2010. You may have more questions. I can answer them via individual email or you can take some time and look up my VHF Contesting School articles on my website. I will be updating that info today/tomorrow, but you can also look up posts I made on June 7th, 2009. I believe the full set of articles is there, right now. The main thing you can do right now is start talking this up. Activity breeds activity. Save some time to play radio on Jan 23-24th. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63 (grid square) 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 6 15:48:09 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 6 15:48:41 2010 Subject: [WARC] Join a regional VHF/UHF Club Message-ID: <221AF79BBDA74EA2958E6B2FE33765AE@sprinkma35adeb> For those of you in WI, NE IA and SE MN, if you'd like to join a V/UHF club that serves your area, check out this post on my website. http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1654 If you click on this graphic, http://www.badgercontesters.org/club_area.html you can see you are within the Badger Contesters circle. Full information about the BC'ers and how to join are in my website post. The BC'ers are a dues-free, low-key group with growing membership. There is no competition with your current, local ham club. Spend a minute or two and decide if you'd like your VHF contest score to count as a club entry for ARRL purposes. I am a BC'er and I'd be happy to see you join. Spread the word to anyone in who's interested. This will be the last email from me today. :) If you're short on time, save the 4 I sent out today and reread them when you have 10-15 minutes. Or bring them to a local club meeting that is the first Wed. of every month. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Wed Jan 6 17:37:39 2010 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Wed Jan 6 17:38:25 2010 Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. In-Reply-To: References: <200912311625.15842.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Message-ID: <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Shari, 3 members of the board would be elected for staggered two year terms. To kick this thing off some of the original board will be elected for 1 year terms. (this is a one time event). Let me know if that doesn't clear this up. Clare On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:11:30 pm Shari Jarvis wrote: > It looks to me as if the end of the first Section says that the Board > members will serve 2-year terms, but Section II says clearly that they > will serve 1-year terms. Shouldn't one or the other of these sentences be > changed? Am I reading this wrong? > > > From: jarvis@jarviscomputer.com > > To: warc@lists.w0ne.org > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:15 -0600 > > Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. > > > > Hams: > > > > The current version of the club constitution has proven to be unworkable > > and not in the best interest of club. > > > > A group of members has worked on a new consitution and bylaws that we > > hope will prove to be more useful to the club. > > > > Some of the high points are: > > > > An Executive Board would be elected. The Executive Board would conduct > > the business of the club. There would be little or no business at club > > meetings. The meets would be club activities. > > > > Quorum would be lowered to allow decsions and elections to happen when > > business was required. > > > > The Executive board would elect officers. > > > > Half the executive board would be elected each year while the other half > > continues on. This would allow continunity of leadership. > > > > The four member that have been working on this so far are K0BAD, N0JP, > > KC0RSX, and K0NY (Les, Ken, Len, and Clare). We hope that you will read > > the proposed constitution and bylaws. If you think of ways this document > > can be improved, please contact us, or send us your suggested revision. > > > > This email does not comprise a not of change nor is this document > > formally a proposal of change yet. It is our intention to be inclusive so > > that when the final changes are proposed that most of us will be > > satisfied. > > > > Please look at the pdf link below > > > > > > > > > > http://goldeneye.jarviscomputer.com/warc/WARC_Constitution-By-LawsFull-Re > >vision_Les_12-09_D..pdf > From lhittner at hbci.com Thu Jan 7 03:03:10 2010 From: lhittner at hbci.com (Leslie Hittner) Date: Thu Jan 7 03:03:34 2010 Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. In-Reply-To: <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> References: <200912311625.15842.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Message-ID: The terms of board members are 2 years. The terms of board officers are one year. Section 2 is speaking of board officer terms. Every year the board is reconstituted with three potentially new members (or possibly re-elected members for additional terms). The board then decides amongst itself who the officers will be. This decision is revisited whenever the board is reconstituted (yearly). Perhaps this clears up the confusion? -Les -------------------------------------------------- From: "Clare Jarvis" Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:37 AM To: "Shari Jarvis" ; "Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion" Subject: Re: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. > > Shari, > > 3 members of the board would be elected for staggered two year terms. To > kick > this thing off some of the original board will be elected for 1 year > terms. > (this is a one time event). Let me know if that doesn't clear this up. > > > Clare > > > > On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:11:30 pm Shari Jarvis wrote: >> It looks to me as if the end of the first Section says that the Board >> members will serve 2-year terms, but Section II says clearly that they >> will serve 1-year terms. Shouldn't one or the other of these sentences >> be >> changed? Am I reading this wrong? >> >> > From: jarvis@jarviscomputer.com >> > To: warc@lists.w0ne.org >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:15 -0600 >> > Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. >> > >> > Hams: >> > >> > The current version of the club constitution has proven to be >> > unworkable >> > and not in the best interest of club. >> > >> > A group of members has worked on a new consitution and bylaws that we >> > hope will prove to be more useful to the club. >> > >> > Some of the high points are: >> > >> > An Executive Board would be elected. The Executive Board would conduct >> > the business of the club. There would be little or no business at club >> > meetings. The meets would be club activities. >> > >> > Quorum would be lowered to allow decsions and elections to happen when >> > business was required. >> > >> > The Executive board would elect officers. >> > >> > Half the executive board would be elected each year while the other >> > half >> > continues on. This would allow continunity of leadership. >> > >> > The four member that have been working on this so far are K0BAD, N0JP, >> > KC0RSX, and K0NY (Les, Ken, Len, and Clare). We hope that you will read >> > the proposed constitution and bylaws. If you think of ways this >> > document >> > can be improved, please contact us, or send us your suggested revision. >> > >> > This email does not comprise a not of change nor is this document >> > formally a proposal of change yet. It is our intention to be inclusive >> > so >> > that when the final changes are proposed that most of us will be >> > satisfied. >> > >> > Please look at the pdf link below >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > http://goldeneye.jarviscomputer.com/warc/WARC_Constitution-By-LawsFull-Re >> >vision_Les_12-09_D..pdf >> > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Thu Jan 7 19:08:33 2010 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Thu Jan 7 19:09:42 2010 Subject: Fwd: RE: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. Message-ID: <201001071108.33520.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Shari Jarvis Subject: RE: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:23:08 -0600 Size: 9535 Url: http://lists.w0ne.org/pipermail/warc/attachments/20100107/21f6af39/attachment.eml From Litvan at acegroup.cc Thu Jan 7 23:15:54 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Thu Jan 7 23:15:53 2010 Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. In-Reply-To: <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> References: <200912311625.15842.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Message-ID: <4B466B2A.8000007@acegroup.cc> I see what Shari is saying, and the wording could be clearer in this portion of the constitution. The confusion is somewhat compounded in that it seems that officers of the corporation consist of all board members and then there are officers of the Executive Board. I have to re-read the wording again on this issue. I believe that this is what we discussed but the wording doesn't seem to specifically define officers of the corporation other than officers of the executive board. Some clarification might be effected by adding sentences at the end of Article III, Section 1 which says something like, "Board members are elected for two years, but the posts of executive board officers defined in this Article shall be one year. Executive board officers may be selected to hold posts for consecutive terms provided they are duly elected as a board member by the membership." Maybe the paragraph Article II, Section 2 should be moved into Article III. There is a bit of a problem in the sequence of introducing the structure, it seems. Any other opinions???? 73, Len KC0RSX Clare Jarvis wrote: > Shari, > > 3 members of the board would be elected for staggered two year terms. To kick > this thing off some of the original board will be elected for 1 year terms. > (this is a one time event). Let me know if that doesn't clear this up. > > > Clare > > > > On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:11:30 pm Shari Jarvis wrote: > >> It looks to me as if the end of the first Section says that the Board >> members will serve 2-year terms, but Section II says clearly that they >> will serve 1-year terms. Shouldn't one or the other of these sentences be >> changed? Am I reading this wrong? From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Fri Jan 8 00:41:06 2010 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Fri Jan 8 00:42:03 2010 Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. In-Reply-To: <4B466B2A.8000007@acegroup.cc> References: <200912311625.15842.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <4B466B2A.8000007@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <201001071641.06287.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Warc, I will be able to converse on this subject more fully on Sunday but I am all for clarity. Clare On Thursday 07 January 2010 03:15:54 pm Len Litvan wrote: > I see what Shari is saying, and the wording could be clearer in this > portion of the constitution. > > The confusion is somewhat compounded in that it seems that officers of > the corporation consist of all board members and then there are officers > of the Executive Board. I have to re-read the wording again on this > issue. I believe that this is what we discussed but the wording doesn't > seem to specifically define officers of the corporation other than > officers of the executive board. > > Some clarification might be effected by adding sentences at the end of > Article III, Section 1 which says something like, "Board members are > elected for two years, but the posts of executive board officers defined > in this Article shall be one year. Executive board officers may be > selected to hold posts for consecutive terms provided they are duly > elected as a board member by the membership." > > Maybe the paragraph Article II, Section 2 should be moved into Article > III. There is a bit of a problem in the sequence of introducing the > structure, it seems. > > Any other opinions???? > > 73, > Len KC0RSX > > Clare Jarvis wrote: > > Shari, > > > > 3 members of the board would be elected for staggered two year terms. To > > kick this thing off some of the original board will be elected for 1 year > > terms. (this is a one time event). Let me know if that doesn't clear > > this up. > > > > > > Clare > > > > On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:11:30 pm Shari Jarvis wrote: > >> It looks to me as if the end of the first Section says that the Board > >> members will serve 2-year terms, but Section II says clearly that they > >> will serve 1-year terms. Shouldn't one or the other of these sentences > >> be changed? Am I reading this wrong? > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 8 01:41:39 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 8 01:41:35 2010 Subject: [WARC] 2009 Sees Surge of New Amateur Radio Licensees Message-ID: <4B468D53.1040403@acegroup.cc> This past year was a banner year for new Amateur Radio licensees in the United States. According to the ARRL, the FCC issued more than 30,000 new ham radio licenses as a result of 6,369 VE testing sessions conducted during the year. New licensees brought the number of licensed hams to 682,500 at the end of 2009, an increase of 4.1% in the past two years. With propagation beginning to improve, now would be a great time for interested people to get their licenses. The Winona Amateur Radio Club is sponsoring a license course beginning later this month. Information is on the club website at www.w0ne.org . The club is also sponsoring a license testing session in early March. Persons successfully passing the license exam in March may expect to have their amateur radio license before Easter. If you know of anyone interested in obtaining their amateur radio license, please ask them to consider the WARC license course. The licensing success rate for participants has been excellent. Sincerely & 73, Len KC0RSX From lhittner at hbci.com Fri Jan 8 12:50:36 2010 From: lhittner at hbci.com (Leslie Hittner) Date: Fri Jan 8 12:50:42 2010 Subject: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. In-Reply-To: <4B466B2A.8000007@acegroup.cc> References: <200912311625.15842.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <201001060937.40005.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> <4B466B2A.8000007@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <105ECCAC9878408C8710614B69469171@Europa> Yes, the corporate officers are all of the board members (2 year terms). The board then elects board officers (1 year terms). I will look over the wording and the sequencing of ideas as well. -Les -------------------------------------------------- From: "Len Litvan" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:15 PM To: "Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion" ; "Shari Jarvis" Subject: Re: [WARC] Revisions to the Club constitution and bylaws. > I see what Shari is saying, and the wording could be clearer in this > portion of the constitution. > > The confusion is somewhat compounded in that it seems that officers of the > corporation consist of all board members and then there are officers of > the Executive Board. I have to re-read the wording again on this issue. > I believe that this is what we discussed but the wording doesn't seem to > specifically define officers of the corporation other than officers of the > executive board. > > Some clarification might be effected by adding sentences at the end of > Article III, Section 1 which says something like, "Board members are > elected for two years, but the posts of executive board officers defined > in this Article shall be one year. Executive board officers may be > selected to hold posts for consecutive terms provided they are duly > elected as a board member by the membership." > > Maybe the paragraph Article II, Section 2 should be moved into Article > III. There is a bit of a problem in the sequence of introducing the > structure, it seems. > > Any other opinions???? > > 73, > Len KC0RSX > > Clare Jarvis wrote: >> Shari, >> >> 3 members of the board would be elected for staggered two year terms. To >> kick this thing off some of the original board will be elected for 1 year >> terms. (this is a one time event). Let me know if that doesn't clear >> this up. >> >> >> Clare >> >> >> >> On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:11:30 pm Shari Jarvis wrote: >> >>> It looks to me as if the end of the first Section says that the Board >>> members will serve 2-year terms, but Section II says clearly that they >>> will serve 1-year terms. Shouldn't one or the other of these sentences >>> be >>> changed? Am I reading this wrong? > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 8 22:23:02 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 8 22:23:12 2010 Subject: [WARC] Advice on equipment to get started. In-Reply-To: <51489d990912201336u2752beddl39c2457c2986e385@mail.gmail.com> References: <51489d990912201336u2752beddl39c2457c2986e385@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B47B046.9060205@acegroup.cc> Hello David, I don't know if you have made any progress on deciding about equipment yet. There are so many different operating activities in ham radio that it can be somewhat overwhelming when you are new. It might be good for you to come to one of the club breakfasts and let some of the folks help you narrow down what your specific interest are--what kind of data are you interested in, what kinds of data is popular in the area (or are we talking digital, not data), what computer type and interconnect hardware would work, other stuff. Some of the folks could even show you their digital set-ups perhaps. The club breakfast will be at McDonalds West this Saturday, Jan. 9--off US-14/61 just west of Gilmore. We start by 8:15 "or so". I plan to attend tomorrow unless something unexpected comes up. Maybe I'll see you there. We had 13 at breakfast last week. Next week we will be at The Timbers. The club website has the breakfast schedule. Sincerely & 73, Len Litvan KC0RSX David Russell wrote: > Greetings, > > I've fairly recently obtained my Technician Class License and am > seeking advice and input on what equipment I should buy. Right now > I'm considering getting a hand-held radio and am pretty sure I want to > be able to use the 2M band for both audio and data. Beyond that I > think I might also like to be able to use the 6M and 70cm band. For > voice operation I'm not too concerned and am sure just about any radio > would be reasonable to start with. It's the data I'm concerned about. > > I have an Intel MacBook and that is the computer I would be using for > most things. I realize that most people are using Windows and maybe a > few Linux and that's always a possibility but I'd really prefer to not > have to boot into another OS or run a virtual machine. I'm very > familiar with computers and software and can even program but I'm > pretty clueless about hardware and Amateur Radio in general. > > Initially I'd like to be able to do the common things such as standard > RTTY and the like but eventually I'd also like to experiment with less > common and maybe even new encoding and modulation types. > > Any advice or input is welcome. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > From davarus at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 01:31:47 2010 From: davarus at gmail.com (David Russell) Date: Sat Jan 9 01:31:54 2010 Subject: [WARC] Advice on equipment to get started. In-Reply-To: <4B47B046.9060205@acegroup.cc> References: <51489d990912201336u2752beddl39c2457c2986e385@mail.gmail.com> <4B47B046.9060205@acegroup.cc> Message-ID: <51489d991001081731u444935cj9329a9b05dd4cbf9@mail.gmail.com> R3JlZXRpbmdzLAoKSSBhY3R1YWxseSBkaWQgZW5kIHVwIGJ1eWluZyBhIFlhZXNvIFZYLTZSIGFu ZCB3aWxsIGJlIHB1cmNoYXNpbmcgYQpTaWduYUxpbmsgVVNCICJnbG9yaWZpZWQgc291bmQgY2Fy ZCIgKEknbSByZWFsbHkgbm90IHN1cmUgd2h5IGl0J3MgJDEwMCsKY29uc2lkZXJpbmcgYSBmYWly bHkgc2ltaWxhciBVU0Igc291bmQgY2FyZCBpcyBsaWtlICQyMC4gIFBlcmhhcHMgbm9pc2UKbGV2 ZWxzLikgdG8gaGFuZGxlIGNvbm5lY3RpbmcgdG8gbXkgY29tcHV0ZXIgZm9yIGRpZ2l0YWwgYW5k IGRhdGEgbW9kZXMuICBJCmdvdCBraW5kYSBleGNpdGVkIGFuZCBqdXN0IG9yZGVyZWQgaXQuICBJ IHByb2JhYmx5IGp1bXBlZCB0aGUgZ3VuIGEgbGl0dGxlCmJ1dCBJIHRoaW5rIGl0J2xsIHdvcmsg Zm9yIGEgc3RhcnQuCgpJIGRvIHBsYW4gb24gYXR0ZW5kaW5nIG9uZSBvZiB5b3VyIGNsdWIgYnJl YWtmYXN0cy4gIEhvcGVmdWxseSB0b21vcnJvdyBidXQKdGhhdCdzIGNvbnRpbmdlbnQgb24gaG93 IGxhdGUgSSdtIHVwIHRvbmlnaHQuICBUbyBzdGFydCB3aXRoIEknbSBhIGxpdHRsZQpjb25mdXNl ZCBvbiB0aGUgZnJlcXVlbmNpZXMgdXNlZCBpbiB0aGUgYXJlYSBhbmQgcmVwZWF0ZXJzIGFuZCB3 aGF0IG5vdCwgc28KSSdsbCBwcm9iYWJseSBzdGFydCB3aXRoIHRoYXQgYW5kIHRlc3QgbXkgbmV3 IHRveS4gIEJleW9uZCB0aGF0IG15IGludGVyZXN0cwphcmUgZ29pbmcgdG8gYmUgdmFyaWVkIGFu ZCB2YXN0LiAgUHJvYmFibHkgdG9vIG11Y2ggc28gYnV0IEkgZmlndXJlIGFzIGxvbmcKYXMgSSdt IGhhdmluZyBmdW4sIGl0J3MgYWxsIGdvb2QuICBJIGxvb2sgZm9yd2FyZCB0byBoZWFyaW5nIGFu ZCBzZWVpbmcgd2hhdApvdGhlciBwZW9wbGUgaW4gdGhlIGFyZWEgYXJlIGRvaW5nLgoKVGhhbmtz IHRvIGFsbCB0aGF0IHJlcGxpZWQgdG8gbXkgcXVlcnkuCgpPbiBGcmksIEphbiA4LCAyMDEwIGF0 IDE2OjIzLCBMZW4gTGl0dmFuIDxMaXR2YW5AYWNlZ3JvdXAuY2M+IHdyb3RlOgoKPiBIZWxsbyBE YXZpZCwKPgo+IEkgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyBpZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSBtYWRlIGFueSBwcm9ncmVzcyBvbiBk ZWNpZGluZyBhYm91dCBlcXVpcG1lbnQgeWV0Lgo+ICBUaGVyZSBhcmUgc28gbWFueSBkaWZmZXJl bnQgb3BlcmF0aW5nIGFjdGl2aXRpZXMgaW4gaGFtIHJhZGlvIHRoYXQgaXQgY2FuCj4gYmUgc29t ZXdoYXQgb3ZlcndoZWxtaW5nIHdoZW4geW91IGFyZSBuZXcuCj4KPiBJdCBtaWdodCBiZSBnb29k IGZvciB5b3UgdG8gY29tZSB0byBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIGNsdWIgYnJlYWtmYXN0cyBhbmQgbGV0IHNv bWUKPiBvZiB0aGUgZm9sa3MgaGVscCB5b3UgbmFycm93IGRvd24gd2hhdCB5b3VyIHNwZWNpZmlj IGludGVyZXN0IGFyZS0td2hhdCBraW5kCj4gb2YgZGF0YSBhcmUgeW91IGludGVyZXN0ZWQgaW4s IHdoYXQga2luZHMgb2YgZGF0YSBpcyBwb3B1bGFyIGluIHRoZSBhcmVhIChvcgo+IGFyZSB3ZSB0 YWxraW5nIGRpZ2l0YWwsIG5vdCBkYXRhKSwgd2hhdCBjb21wdXRlciB0eXBlIGFuZCBpbnRlcmNv bm5lY3QKPiBoYXJkd2FyZSB3b3VsZCB3b3JrLCBvdGhlciBzdHVmZi4gIFNvbWUgb2YgdGhlIGZv bGtzIGNvdWxkIGV2ZW4gc2hvdyB5b3UKPiB0aGVpciBkaWdpdGFsIHNldC11cHMgcGVyaGFwcy4K Pgo+IFRoZSBjbHViIGJyZWFrZmFzdCB3aWxsIGJlIGF0IE1jRG9uYWxkcyBXZXN0IHRoaXMgU2F0 dXJkYXksIEphbi4gOS0tb2ZmCj4gVVMtMTQvNjEganVzdCB3ZXN0IG9mIEdpbG1vcmUuICBXZSBz dGFydCBieSA4OjE1ICJvciBzbyIuICBJIHBsYW4gdG8gYXR0ZW5kCj4gdG9tb3Jyb3cgdW5sZXNz IHNvbWV0aGluZyB1bmV4cGVjdGVkIGNvbWVzIHVwLiAgTWF5YmUgSSdsbCBzZWUgeW91IHRoZXJl Lgo+ICBXZSBoYWQgMTMgYXQgYnJlYWtmYXN0IGxhc3Qgd2Vlay4KPgo+IE5leHQgd2VlayB3ZSB3 aWxsIGJlIGF0IFRoZSBUaW1iZXJzLiAgVGhlIGNsdWIgd2Vic2l0ZSBoYXMgdGhlIGJyZWFrZmFz dAo+IHNjaGVkdWxlLgo+Cj4gU2luY2VyZWx5ICYgNzMsCj4gTGVuIExpdHZhbgo+IEtDMFJTWAo+ Cj4gRGF2aWQgUnVzc2VsbCB3cm90ZToKPgo+PiBHcmVldGluZ3MsCj4+Cj4+IEkndmUgZmFpcmx5 IHJlY2VudGx5IG9idGFpbmVkIG15IFRlY2huaWNpYW4gQ2xhc3MgTGljZW5zZSBhbmQgYW0gc2Vl a2luZwo+PiBhZHZpY2UgYW5kIGlucHV0IG9uIHdoYXQgZXF1aXBtZW50IEkgc2hvdWxkIGJ1eS4g IFJpZ2h0IG5vdyBJJ20gY29uc2lkZXJpbmcKPj4gZ2V0dGluZyBhIGhhbmQtaGVsZCByYWRpbyBh bmQgYW0gcHJldHR5IHN1cmUgSSB3YW50IHRvIGJlIGFibGUgdG8gdXNlIHRoZSAyTQo+PiBiYW5k IGZvciBib3RoIGF1ZGlvIGFuZCBkYXRhLiAgQmV5b25kIHRoYXQgSSB0aGluayBJIG1pZ2h0IGFs c28gbGlrZSB0byBiZQo+PiBhYmxlIHRvIHVzZSB0aGUgNk0gYW5kIDcwY20gYmFuZC4gIEZvciB2 b2ljZSBvcGVyYXRpb24gSSdtIG5vdCB0b28gY29uY2VybmVkCj4+IGFuZCBhbSBzdXJlIGp1c3Qg YWJvdXQgYW55IHJhZGlvIHdvdWxkIGJlIHJlYXNvbmFibGUgdG8gc3RhcnQgd2l0aC4gIEl0J3MK Pj4gdGhlIGRhdGEgSSdtIGNvbmNlcm5lZCBhYm91dC4KPj4KPj4gSSBoYXZlIGFuIEludGVsIE1h Y0Jvb2sgYW5kIHRoYXQgaXMgdGhlIGNvbXB1dGVyIEkgd291bGQgYmUgdXNpbmcgZm9yIG1vc3QK Pj4gdGhpbmdzLiAgSSByZWFsaXplIHRoYXQgbW9zdCBwZW9wbGUgYXJlIHVzaW5nIFdpbmRvd3Mg YW5kIG1heWJlIGEgZmV3IExpbnV4Cj4+IGFuZCB0aGF0J3MgYWx3YXlzIGEgcG9zc2liaWxpdHkg YnV0IEknZCByZWFsbHkgcHJlZmVyIHRvIG5vdCBoYXZlIHRvIGJvb3QKPj4gaW50byBhbm90aGVy IE9TIG9yIHJ1biBhIHZpcnR1YWwgbWFjaGluZS4gIEknbSB2ZXJ5IGZhbWlsaWFyIHdpdGggY29t cHV0ZXJzCj4+IGFuZCBzb2Z0d2FyZSBhbmQgY2FuIGV2ZW4gcHJvZ3JhbSBidXQgSSdtIHByZXR0 eSBjbHVlbGVzcyBhYm91dCBoYXJkd2FyZSBhbmQKPj4gQW1hdGV1ciBSYWRpbyBpbiBnZW5lcmFs Lgo+Pgo+PiBJbml0aWFsbHkgSSdkIGxpa2UgdG8gYmUgYWJsZSB0byBkbyB0aGUgY29tbW9uIHRo aW5ncyBzdWNoIGFzIHN0YW5kYXJkCj4+IFJUVFkgYW5kIHRoZSBsaWtlIGJ1dCBldmVudHVhbGx5 IEknZCBhbHNvIGxpa2UgdG8gZXhwZXJpbWVudCB3aXRoIGxlc3MKPj4gY29tbW9uIGFuZCBtYXli ZSBldmVuIG5ldyBlbmNvZGluZyBhbmQgbW9kdWxhdGlvbiB0eXBlcy4KPj4KPj4gQW55IGFkdmlj ZSBvciBpbnB1dCBpcyB3ZWxjb21lLgo+PiAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KPj4KPj4gX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPj4gV0FSQyBtYWlsaW5nIGxp c3QKPj4gV0FSQ0BsaXN0cy53MG5lLm9yZwo+PiBodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMudzBuZS5vcmcvY2dpLWJp bi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3dhcmMKPj4KPj4KPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo+IFdBUkMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0Cj4gV0FSQ0BsaXN0cy53 MG5lLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy53MG5lLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmluL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8v d2FyYwo+Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tIG5leHQgcGFydCAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpBbiBIVE1MIGF0 dGFjaG1lbnQgd2FzIHNjcnViYmVkLi4uClVSTDogaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLncwbmUub3JnL3BpcGVy bWFpbC93YXJjL2F0dGFjaG1lbnRzLzIwMTAwMTA4LzQyZmJlN2E0L2F0dGFjaG1lbnQuaHRtCg== From Litvan at acegroup.cc Mon Jan 11 01:10:44 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Mon Jan 11 01:10:43 2010 Subject: [WARC] WARC Ham Radio Course Message-ID: <4B4A7A94.4050407@acegroup.cc> So far, there are two people signed up for the Technician Class course which begins Jan.25--an employee or TRW and a student at WSU. Registration deadline is this coming Friday, Jan. 15. If you know of anyone with interest in getting their license, please encourage them to get registered. We will be ordering books right after the 15th. Course information is on the website. If anyone needs additional detail, we have a flyer available. Please contact me if you want one and I will see that it is e-mailed to you. Sincerely & 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Mon Jan 11 13:42:35 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Mon Jan 11 13:42:30 2010 Subject: [WARC] WARC Upcoming Activities Message-ID: <4B4B2ACB.7050009@acegroup.cc> The WARC club website has been updated with club activities and events through March 8. We have lots of fun items on the calendar! 73, Len KC0RSX From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 13 16:18:46 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 13 16:19:19 2010 Subject: [WARC] 144 MHz SSB nets *ON* tonight Message-ID: <70D9A74CAB6A4817A12636DC074B79F1@sprinkma35adeb> Your weekly reminder is up at http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1780 All are welcome to the Wed. night nets -- only purpose is to stir up more activity on VHF. If nets don't excite you, feel free to call CQ on your own down on 144.230 or lower. Because WB9LYH and I both want increased overall activity, we hope many ops will do their own thing. Long-term goal is to make this a widespread activity night. Hepburn Tropo Forecast Maps predict a bit of enhancement for tonight. http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html I hope in 4-6 days, the long-range weather forecasts for Jan 23-24th still look as mild as they do today. Just about everyone is ready for an extended thaw. It would do the contest (and potential rovers) some serious favors. Talking about the ARRL Jan. VHF Sweepstakes. Make some room on your schedule to call CQ Contest on the 23-24th. The plaque that W9HQ/KC9JTL won last year is up for grabs. This plaque will be awarded to the top scorer from SW WI/SE MN, who is not a big gun or long-time contester. The plaque is there to reward guys/gals who get on with modest stations and try hard. It's to encourage newer folks to try VHF contesting. My VHF Contesting School articles are available to anyone who wants to learn more. Go to my website, and to posts dated Jan. 10th. Details are there. Feel free to distribute them to anyone with interest. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From Litvan at acegroup.cc Thu Jan 14 04:28:08 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Thu Jan 14 04:28:26 2010 Subject: [WARC] [Fwd: [hfdec] Port Au Prince, Haiti phone patch Recording ~ 5 PM ET January 13, 2009] Message-ID: <4B4E9D58.1070302@acegroup.cc> Interesting amateur radio support!!! Len -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [hfdec] Port Au Prince, Haiti phone patch Recording ~ 5 PM ET = January 13, 2009 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:57:10 -0500 From: Andy obrien Reply-To: hfdec@yahoogroups.com To: hfdec@yahoogroups.com, ccafma@yahoogroups.com References: <286072.36823.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> = ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Glenn Hauser > Date: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:53 PM Subject: [dxld] Port Au Prince, Haiti phone patch Recording ~ 5 PM ET January 13, 2009 [1 Attachment] To: dxld@yahoogroups.com [Attachment(s) <#1262a1c0b140f1a2_TopText> from Glenn Hauser included below] > A very dramatic phone-patch between Jean-Robert Gaillard, > Port-au-Prince, Haiti (HH2JR) and Frederick J. Moore, 7500 E > Pocono Dr, Inverness, FL 34450 (W3ZU) in Florida. > Hundreds dead, no power, no electricity, no hospital. > Jean-Robert Gaillard reports 30 aftershocks since the main > earthquake, saying "everything is chaos, dead bodies > all over the place." This conversation was captured via > amateur (ham) radio a few moments ago. Jean-Robert becomes > very emotional at the end of the conversation when he's > informed there is a Coast Guard Cutter on scene in Port Au > Prince, a Hospital ship on the way, and 3 more Cutters > enroute. > > Brian Crow, K3VR 26 minutes Attachment(s) from Glenn Hauser 1 of 1 File(s) Haiti.mp3> Reply to sender?subject=3DPort+Au+Prince,+Haiti+phone+patch+R= ecording+%7E+5+PM+ET+January+13,+2009> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender = = | Reply to group = = Messages in this topic = = (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group = = Start a New Topic = = MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living = Yahoo! Groups = = Switch to: Text-Only = , = Daily Digest = = . Unsubscribe = . Terms = of Use . __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.w0ne.org/pipermail/warc/attachments/20100113/54485fa6/att= achment.htm From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 15 23:24:31 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 15 23:24:52 2010 Subject: [WARC] FINAL CALL FOR REGISTRATIONS - Ham Radio Licensing Course Begins in January Message-ID: <4B50F92F.6060000@acegroup.cc> REGISTRATIONS FOR THE UPCOMING LICENSING COURSE WILL BE CLOSED THIS WEEK END. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND HAVEN'T ALREADY REGISTERED. SEE BELOW. ******** _Dates_: Classes ? Six consecutive Monday evenings -- January 25 through March 1, 2010. License testing session -- Monday, March 8 (open to the public). _Time_: Classes -- 6:00 to 9:00 PM. Licensing session -- 7:00 PM. _Place_: Bluffview Montessori School, 1321 Gilmore Avenue, Winona, MN. _Cost_: $24.95 for the ARRL Ham Radio License Manual to be paid at the first course session. This fee is waived for those who provide their own copy of the current manual. In addition there is a $15.00 license examination fee to be paid at the time of the exam. _Registration Deadline_: Friday, Jan 15, 2010. Register by contacting Len Litvan at KC?RSX@arrl.net , or at (507) 643-6057, or by mail at 25567 Miner Valley Road, Winona, MN 55987. No Morse code test is required for amateur radio licenses. For any questions regarding the course or license testing please contact Len Litvan via the above means. For additional information about the Winona Amateur Radio Club, please see the club website at www.w?ne.org . For LOTS of information about amateur radio in general, see the American Radio Relay League web page at www.hello-radio.org/ . Sincerely, Len Litvan From tom at galesvillefiredepartment.org Mon Jan 18 01:40:19 2010 From: tom at galesvillefiredepartment.org (Tom Peterson) Date: Mon Jan 18 01:40:43 2010 Subject: [WARC] 2010 Severe Weather Spotter Training Message-ID: <4B53BC03.8060804@galesvillefiredepartment.org> http://www.crh.noaa.gov/arx/?n=skywarn_schedule From cyberzl1 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 19 12:46:48 2010 From: cyberzl1 at yahoo.com (cyberzl1) Date: Tue Jan 19 12:46:53 2010 Subject: [WARC] Texting while driving In-Reply-To: <4B53BC03.8060804@galesvillefiredepartment.org> Message-ID: <378555.35036.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Heard on MPR this morning.... Wisconsin has up for debate legislation to make it illegal to text while dr= iving.=A0 Exception clauses for emergency personnel, law enforcement, and t= hose who hold an amateur radio license.=A0 Based on the same legislation al= ready in effect in Minnesota.=A0 = So apparently the ARRL (or some other similar lobby) does hold a little clo= ut in these matters.=A0 Just thought a few might find it interesting, altho= ugh aside from the radio reference, irrelevent.=A0 I know I don't text at a= ll, much less while driving. = =A0Does lead one to wonder if we get the same exception for no talking on a= cell phone while driving, also currently illegal in Minnesota.=A0 In some = states it is stated communications device with similar exceptions as above.= =A0 I'm not sure how Minnesota has it stated. Jeridiah - AC0KO = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.w0ne.org/pipermail/warc/attachments/20100119/e45c5e17/att= achment.htm From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 20 01:15:56 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 20 01:16:30 2010 Subject: [WARC] Re: [La Crosse Hams] Activity nights in the VHF Sweepstakes References: <520aa5d1001191539l7565fc11yec7134404fea1973@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello List Members and Hello David, The plaque you and KC9JTL won last year is up for grabs this weekend. Who will put in the time to win it? The highest SW WI/far SE MN score by a smaller-gun or newer contester will win the plaque. I will be asking for logs after the contest, so I can review the results. Only those who submit logs will be eligible. Logging instructions are at: http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1717 You do NOT have to keep a log to hand out points in a contest. It's recommended, but not required. I know casual ops who get on at intervals and "hand out points". I'm glad there's a focused activity period for FM (or casual) operations. Hope those folks get on in spades, like they did last year. BUT ... be open to operating for more than just a few hours. There are many stations to be worked outside your immediate area, if you listen carefully. I'm optimistic that Bruce W9FZ will be roving in your area again, like he did last year. I'll know more about his plans by tomorrow or Thursday, and will share them as soon as I know. (He used the call KB9C last year) Anyone else with rover plans? Rover info is at: http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1737 and http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1740 Those links contain external links to other websites with pictures of rover stations. Might get you thinking... :) Good luck, hope to work many of you. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palm" To: "Wisconsin Ham Radio" ; "Mailing list for the MVARA" ; ; "Winona Amateur Radio Club general discussion" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: [La Crosse Hams] Activity nights in the VHF Sweepstakes > Hello all, > > Following up on WV9E's great posting below, I just wanted to encourage > you > to get on the air during the Activity Hours, 7 - 8 pm on this coming > Saturday and Sunday evenings for the ARRL VHF Sweepstakes. My son > KC9JTL > and I will be calling CQ on 146.55 and 146.58 MHz during those hours, > so > we'd love to hear you in there. Then we'd love to ask you to QSY to 6 > meters, 1.25 meters, or 70 cm if you have them. And see who else you > can > work on 2 meter simplex and then on the other bands. One of the > things I > find so enjoyable about these contests is just seeing what the > rig/antenna > set-up here can do. > > Hope to work you during the contest. > > 73, > > David W9HQ > > > > On 1/17/10, Dave, WV9E wrote: >> >> Fellow hams. >> >> Some of you know me, but to those that don't I am one of the few ops >> in >> our area that enjoy VHF plus operation, sometimes called weak >> signal operating. I use the word "few" as it seems 3-5 of us in our >> area, >> grid EN43 (VHF convention) could be called regular users of >> non-repeater VHF frequencies. That said, I am writing to encourage >> any >> operators with atleast 6 meters capability to get on the air for >> the January ARRL VHF Sweepstakes January 23-25, 2010 starting 1900 >> UTC >> Saturday, and ending 0359 UTC Monday. >> For those of you that have always wanted to try out your new >> DC-Daylite >> rig, or your HF w/ 6 meter capability this is a good chance to >> actually find someone on the air. While most of this contest takes >> place >> on SSB, with vertical antennas there will be activity on the FM >> portion of 2 meters just above but not on the FM calling frequency, >> 146.520. 5 to 7 PM local time Saturday and AM on Sunday are the >> typical times. So even if you have only an HT and some time, shout >> a few >> CQ's on FM Saturday. It could pay off in some Q's. >> There is a plaque sponsored by Todd, KC9BQA in Milwaukee. This is >> an >> award for our area for the best of the new operators in >> this contest. Check his web site / blog for updates and details on >> this >> award and more on local VHF contesting/operating tips, >> www.kc9bqa.com . >> >> FYI , many of you know about this, but I repeat for those that don't. >> There is a 2 meter net, originating in EN54. Mark WB9LYH calls >> this on Wednesdays at 7 PM local time. He has 500 watts and is very >> loud >> in our area. The frequency is 144.240 USB and I would not >> be surprised if you could work him with a horizontal dipole depending >> on >> your location and power. I have a list of other local VHF nets on >> my website, www.wv9e.net/vhfnets.htm , from the cities and elsewhere. >> There is activity pretty much every nite and if nothing else you >> may just catch one of us locals on. Again, the Wednesday nite net is >> a >> good bet for those w/ beginning level equipment. If you >> don't have success plan to add a yagi for 2 meters. In VHF there is >> one >> word you will hear from all experienced OP's... antenna..antenna >> antenna.... ! Here is a link to some cheap ($ 10) and easy antennas >> you >> can build in an hour.. www.wa5vjb.com/yagi-pdf/cheapyagi.pdf . >> >> As you know, VHF operating is not like 20 meters during the day nor >> like >> 40 or 80 evenings, where there are always stations you can >> work essentially with only a piece of wire out the window. VHF >> doesn't >> support long range communications without some enhancement, >> higher power, data mode or even meteor scatter. That being said, >> much can >> be done with reasonable antennnas and lower power, say >> 100 watts or so and w/ out enhanced conditions 100 - 200 mile >> contacts are >> not uncommon. I know this is not for everyone, however once >> again I encourage you to get on the air, whether for this contest or >> just >> to help keep the air waves full of signals. Remember, any contact >> in a different grid is considered DX. >> >> Finally.... it has been suggested that we in our area start a 2 >> meter >> simplex net once a week. I am open to this idea and considering >> there are many SSB nets on 144 perhaps something on FM where anyone >> local >> w/ 2 meter equipment can check in. I know there is a >> Sunday repeater net and I don't want to compete with that in any way, >> nor >> the local 15 meter net on 21.320 on Wednesdays. I am thinking >> simply an informal net where you can call/check in, see if that new >> antenna >> works, ask about local ham stuff or what ever is on your mind. >> Please send me an email at dave@wv9e.net if you are interested >> and/or >> have comments about what format you would like this to take, >> or even if you think it is a retarded idea... it wouldn't be my >> first... >> let me know. >> >> Thanks for your time and please... get on the air. >> >> 73, >> >> Dave Huber, WV9E >> >> www.wv9e.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com >> http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com >> Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org >> Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com > http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com > Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org > Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.150/2632 - Release Date: 01/19/10 07:34:00 From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 20 15:24:52 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 20 15:25:22 2010 Subject: [WARC] 144 SSB nets *ON* tonight -- 7pm Message-ID: By now, most of you know the net drill. If you want more info, it's here: http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1780 This explains the frequencies, times, directions to look. That real-time 144/432 MHz chat at www.on4kst.com really comes in handy if you want a better mental picture of what all is going on. I hear WB9LYH 98% of the time, and I type real-time updates in the chat about who Mark is hearing and where he's pointing. Go to my website link above for the 7 simple steps to get signed up to chat. Actively seeking newer ops to join in, and this chat is a great way to observe what we're doing. Also this is the last net night before the ARRL Jan VHF contest held this weekend. Multiple guys get on our nets from the Dubuque, LaCrosse, Eau Claire, Minneapolis areas. So tune in and evaluate your station's range tonight. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Wed Jan 20 21:57:12 2010 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Wed Jan 20 21:57:33 2010 Subject: [WARC] Re: February hamgram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201001201557.13092.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> On Sunday 17 January 2010 18:39:22 you wrote: > Party Time! I cannot for the life of me recall resigning as Vice-president when I was not at the meeting. -- Mr. Clare Jarvis President, Jarvis Computer Software PO Box 1264 Winona, MN 5598707264 (507) 454-2575 From Litvan at acegroup.cc Thu Jan 21 21:34:39 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Thu Jan 21 21:34:44 2010 Subject: [WARC] for sale Message-ID: <4B58C86F.3070008@acegroup.cc> Subject: [La Crosse Hams] for sale Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:22:20 -0600 From: william e. bastian To: lacrossehams@qth.com Kenwood TS-430S transceiver, PS-430 power supply and Yaesu YS-200 watt/SWR meter. Estate sale, the amateur who owned it was unable to use it for the last 8 years. Pictures available. Asking $275 for the package. Will break up the package for those interested. N9BOE _______________________________________________ LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com From lancetag at Luminet.net Thu Jan 21 22:18:35 2010 From: lancetag at Luminet.net (Lance Tagliapietra) Date: Thu Jan 21 22:25:28 2010 Subject: [WARC] Holiday Party Tonight Message-ID: <20100121221833.GB29383@luminet.net> 6pm at Timbers -- See you all there! --Lance From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 22 03:30:50 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 22 03:30:59 2010 Subject: [WARC] [Fwd: [La Crosse Hams] TS-430S] Message-ID: <4B591BEA.4060606@acegroup.cc> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [La Crosse Hams] TS-430S Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:32:12 -0600 From: william e. bastian To: lacrossehams@qth.com The TS-430S package has been sold Thanks everyone! N9BOE From Litvan at acegroup.cc Fri Jan 22 13:18:56 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Fri Jan 22 13:19:03 2010 Subject: [WARC] Nice Holiday Party Last Night Message-ID: <4B59A5C0.10804@acegroup.cc> Thanks to Ken N0JP for organizing a very nice holiday party for the club and guests last night. It was fun to take the time to talk to folks about what is going on in their lives over a nice dinner. People's brains were exercised with the "holiday hodge podge" activity. Thanks goodness no team got all the solutions this year! I liked the one about the hunting dog best. :-) Nice gifts also. Plenty of different types of items to go around. Thanks again, Ken. 73, Len KC0RSX From sprinkies at excel.net Fri Jan 22 22:06:29 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Fri Jan 22 22:07:00 2010 Subject: [WARC] Fw: [BC'ers] W9FZ/R six grid rove this weekend Message-ID: <91014E8392A64FE1A8283ED465E249B1@sprinkma35adeb> Want your areas to know about Bruce W9FZ's roving plans this weekend, which will be easily workable on SSB for most of you. This is the same fellow who opped as KB9C/R last year, same good station and strong signal. Bruce is a commercial pilot, so it's not like he cut a Japan vacation short to come home and play in the contest! Also note that for the 2nd year, he's having KC9RDC Russell from Richland Center take a more active role in calling CQ. So keep a listen out for Russell and Bruce and give them some contacts, please. We'll talk about you folks submitting logs for the plaque award after the contest. If there's any questions, email me before noon tomorrow (contest starts 1pm Sat. and runs until 10pm Sun.) Basic logging info you need to write down is: BAND,TIME,DATE,MODE (Phone or CW),CALL,GRID. (Meaning the other station's call and grid square) You can certainly log on paper; I did for years. We'll work on log submissions after the contest, you have up to 30 days. Talk it up, still have a little time to get a new one on. Good luck, 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Richardson" To: "'Badger Contesters'" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [BC'ers] W9FZ/R six grid rove this weekend > Hello BC'ers: > > I'm in Japan at the moment. But between now and contest > time, I'll travel halfway around the world, load my radios > in the Twin Cities, load my antennas in EN-43, and begin the > contest from EN52 (see sched below). So there are some > things in the way, but I have every intention of being on. > > This year, from the first two grids, Russell KC9RDC will be > at the mike most of the time. Russell will have 5 radios > and amplifiers to manage for 7 bands. I'll have a straight > key by me if needed. So it will be my callsign but not my > voice during the day on Saturday. From SW Wisconsin near > Dodgeville, we should be good into Chicago, Milwaukee, and > MSP--and points between. I'll be solo for the other grids. > My 54/44 locations are not too far from Necedah, WI where it > is flat and full of trees so my sigs may be weaker from > there--but let's give it a go. > > Yes, we will occasionally check 146.55/58 but with the > little magmount we won't expect too much there. > > Only a six grid rove this time in order to accommodate a > number of things--one of which is the Vikes game on Sunday > evening. Much warmer weather --even if not very nice--this > year over the psst few. Note I'll be in EN43 twice--on both > late evenings. > > Please work me on 6, 2, 222, 432, 902, 1.2, 2.3, and 10G. > Main CQ'ing freq will be 144.240. (I've not seen any other > rovers on that freq yet--let me know if anyone else already > claimed that and I'll move up.) Plan on going to .140 on > most of the other bands. I'm thinking up around .180 for 6m. > > W9FZ/R (w/KC9RDC) > CQ'ing 144.240 > > Saturday > EN-52 1300-1500L (19-21Z) > EN-42 1600-1800L (22-24Z) > EN-43 2000-2200L (02-04Z) > > Sunday > EN-53 0800-1000L (14-16Z) > EN-54 1100-1300L (17-19Z) > EN-44 1400-1600L (20-22Z) > EN-43 2030-2200L (0230-04Z) > > I look forward to working all my radio friends in the region > multiple times! > > 73 > Bruce Richardson W9FZ/R > > ______________________________________________________________ > BadgerContesters mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/badgercontesters > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:BadgerContesters@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2634 - Release Date: 01/20/10 09:12:00 From Litvan at acegroup.cc Sat Jan 23 03:01:34 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Sat Jan 23 03:01:42 2010 Subject: [WARC] See you at breakfast Saturday Message-ID: <4B5A668E.7070301@acegroup.cc> Wow! Sunspots 30! Cool. See you at breakfast at McDonalds West tomorrow I hope. :-) 73, Len From lindner1 at hbci.com Sat Jan 23 17:05:57 2010 From: lindner1 at hbci.com (Dick Lindner) Date: Sat Jan 23 17:05:22 2010 Subject: [WARC] Signal Generator Message-ID: <4B5B2C75.7020702@hbci.com> Does anyone have a signal generator for sale? Dick - W0RIF From jj at aprsworld.com Sat Jan 23 23:16:31 2010 From: jj at aprsworld.com (James Jarvis) Date: Sat Jan 23 23:16:35 2010 Subject: [WARC] Signal Generator In-Reply-To: <4B5B2C75.7020702@hbci.com> References: <4B5B2C75.7020702@hbci.com> Message-ID: <4B5B834F.6070900@aprsworld.com> What are you looking for? I might have one for loan, depending on the specs. Dick Lindner wrote: > Does anyone have a signal generator for sale? > > Dick - W0RIF > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From lindner1 at hbci.com Sun Jan 24 03:00:47 2010 From: lindner1 at hbci.com (Dick Lindner) Date: Sun Jan 24 03:00:55 2010 Subject: [WARC] Signal Generator In-Reply-To: <4B5B834F.6070900@aprsworld.com> References: <4B5B2C75.7020702@hbci.com> <4B5B834F.6070900@aprsworld.com> Message-ID: <4B5BB7DF.7040500@hbci.com> Thank you Jim. I think that I have located one from a local. Will know in about a week's time. To answer your question, I simply need to re-align my Collins 75A4 after having changed out the "Seven Deadly Caps" plus all of the 0.1mfd "Black Beauties" - about 20 some in all. So I am talking RF at 1-30 Mhz is all. Very unsophisticated. Dick James Jarvis wrote: > What are you looking for? I might have one for loan, depending on the > specs. > > Dick Lindner wrote: >> Does anyone have a signal generator for sale? >> >> Dick - W0RIF >> _______________________________________________ >> WARC mailing list >> WARC@lists.w0ne.org >> http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > From Litvan at acegroup.cc Mon Jan 25 15:24:55 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Mon Jan 25 15:25:02 2010 Subject: [WARC] [Fwd: [La Crosse Hams] Forsale] Message-ID: <4B5DB7C7.9070701@acegroup.cc> Interesting 2-meter rig for sale. See below. Len -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [La Crosse Hams] Forsale Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:19:58 -0600 From: W9RPM Reply-To: W9RPM To: LaCrosse Hams A friend of mine, K9ELN asked me to put on a couple of items he has forsale. He drives for FedEx so he is on the road everyday. He has a new in the box, FT2800M 2 meter radio. Tested and that's it. $100. Includes a NEW Larsen dual band mag mount antenna that came with it. Also, he has another FT2800M that he used a few months, 9 out of 10 in shape. $70 for this one.No manual for this one. Easy to get free on internet. You can call him in the day and evening at 608-792-8759. Thanks. John W9RPM EMAIL: john@w9rpm.com WEBPAGE: http://www.w9rpm.com/ DX and CONTEST CLUB: http://www.w9idx.com/ AOL IM: W9RPM YAHOO: W9RPM --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100125-0, 01/25/2010 Tested on: 1/25/2010 9:19:59 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com From Litvan at acegroup.cc Mon Jan 25 22:39:57 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Mon Jan 25 22:40:05 2010 Subject: [WARC] Technician Class Licensing Course Begins Tonight Message-ID: <4B5E1DBD.503@acegroup.cc> Hello all, The new Technician licensing course kicks off at 6:00 tonight. We may try a QSO via the repeater as a demo. If you have the opportunity, you might monitor 146.640 tonight from 6:00 to about 8:00 PM and come back to a call if we can work it in. Thanks & 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Tue Jan 26 04:48:17 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Tue Jan 26 04:48:21 2010 Subject: [WARC] WARC Technician Class Licensing Course--Off to a Good Start Tonight Message-ID: <4B5E7411.9000400@acegroup.cc> The club's licensing course started tonight with two walk-ins. That brings the total students to six. The course got off to a good start--good students and the course material went over very well tonight. Thanks Paul and Les. Here are the students. If you know any of them, encourage them and offer to elmer them if they need assistance as they prepare for license testing. Jordan Benson Dave Burman Doug Clement Douglas Decker Syed Faruque Jim Stellick See you at Saturday breakfast at The Timbers. 73, Len KC0RSX From Litvan at acegroup.cc Tue Jan 26 18:50:36 2010 From: Litvan at acegroup.cc (Len Litvan) Date: Tue Jan 26 18:50:44 2010 Subject: [WARC] WARC - What are you doing Saturday morning? Message-ID: <4B5F397C.2050200@acegroup.cc> See the interesting e-mail from WARC club member Bob KC9IWE below. Anyone interested in going to see the stations? 73, Len KC0RSX ------ Len, Congrats on getting a new group started [Technician licensing course]! You, WARC members & the new guys are invited to join a small, hardy, dumb group of us 11am - 4 pm Sat next to LSE NWS office for winter Field Day. Hope to run 2-3 stations and make few contacts while not freezing to death. Geeks having fun in the snow. 73 Bob KC9IWE" From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 27 03:27:04 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 27 03:30:21 2010 Subject: [WARC] 144 SSB nets *ON* Wed. night Message-ID: Here's your announcement that our SSB nets are *ON* again this week. Full details at http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1825 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 27 03:27:04 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 27 03:35:05 2010 Subject: [WARC] 144 SSB nets *ON* Wed. night Message-ID: Here's your announcement that our SSB nets are *ON* again this week. Full details at http://kc9bqa.com/?p=1825 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates From sprinkies at excel.net Wed Jan 27 04:05:31 2010 From: sprinkies at excel.net (Todd Sprinkmann) Date: Wed Jan 27 04:06:06 2010 Subject: [WARC] Re: [La Crosse Hams] The VHF Sweepstakes this past weekend References: <520aa5d1001260952n62a690b4iddeab2b598872b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6348896BE85E4C4BB981A7C949843481@sprinkma35adeb> Well the whole SW WI area did it again! This is the 2nd year in a row you hams have had an impressive turnout for the ARRL Jan VHF Sweepstakes. 20-25 operators from a region far away from large cities is something else. Someone's going to win a plaque. It won't be a big gun or long-time contester. I sponsored this plaque to encourage some new or smaller stations to get on. It's working. :) What I need now is to see your contest log. I can't award a plaque to anyone who doesn't send me their log. KC9JTL won it last year. Who's going to win it this year? (Yes, KC9JTL and W9HQ still qualify as smaller-guns and newer contesters) W9HQ and WV9E, I don't know what all groups you promoted the contest to. I only email to the LaCrosseHams and WARC lists. So if you pass the word in various directions, please do so. I don't want anyone who is plaque eligible to be left out. Questions or comments, please email me. 73, Todd KC9BQA EN63ao 40 N of Milwaukee http://www.kc9bqa.com For Frequent VHF/UHF Updates ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palm" To: "LaCrosse Hams" ; Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: [La Crosse Hams] The VHF Sweepstakes this past weekend >I just wanted to thank all who got on the air and contacted KC9JTL over >the > weekend. It was really great to hear so many locals, on both FM and > SSB. > > As for locals on FM we worked KB9TPG, KC9LBO, K9ALT, KC9OYG, KC9NHQ, > KC9KVJ, > W9ET, KC9MRV, WX9EP, and N9UNW. > > Local contacts on SSB came from WV9E, WV9S, KA9FOX, W9UUM, W9GM, > W9RPM, > N9ETD, KB9BGN, and AB9HW. (I hope I'm not forgetting anybody.) > > I think that's just great, so thanks again for everybody who got on > the air! > > Christopher and I made a total of 93 contacts. Here's the breakdown: > > QSOs Grids > 50 27 9 > 144 52 14 > 222 9 6 > 440 5 1 > > That's almost twice as many contacts as we got last January, which was > our > first VHF-UHF contest. And conditions were pretty poor this weekend. > > Hope to do better in June. If you have an inkling that this might be > fun > (it is!) then by all means make some plans to put some yagis in the > air and > play in the June contest. > > 73, > > David W9HQ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > LaCrosseHams mailing list -- LaCrosseHams@qth.com > http://mail.qth.com/mailman/listinfo/lacrossehams_qth.com > Visit our Web Page: http://www.lacrossehams.org > Mailing list and Web Site Courtesy of: http://www.qth.com > From tom at galesvillefiredepartment.org Wed Jan 27 23:46:05 2010 From: tom at galesvillefiredepartment.org (Tom Peterson) Date: Wed Jan 27 23:46:17 2010 Subject: [WARC] Fwd: [TCRA] RADIOS Message-ID: <4B60D03D.6090201@galesvillefiredepartment.org> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -----= --------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com = Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2649 - Release Date: 01/27/10 13= :08:00 From jonmcpete at cpinternet.com Fri Jan 29 14:04:18 2010 From: jonmcpete at cpinternet.com (jonmcpete@cpinternet.com) Date: Fri Jan 29 14:04:27 2010 Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate Message-ID: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> We have been planning for a while to put an APRS digipeater on our tower at Wabasha. Russ, N0QK, has been involved with the idea. A question came up this week that I had no clue about: As internet access is available 200' from the tower (our house), should we make it an IGate? When is it a "problem" having too many connections to the internet too close together such as Rochester AND Winona AND Wabasha etc.? Offhand I couldn't think of why that would be bad. If internet access was lost in a disaster, you would want it to revert back to a repeat mode but maybe IGates repeat anyway in addition to feeding info to the internet?? It seems to me that if IGates also normally repeat it would just add to the "clutter" of signals. Can anybody educate me? Jon WA0UNB Jon Peterson wa0unb From jarvis at jarviscomputer.com Fri Jan 29 18:35:27 2010 From: jarvis at jarviscomputer.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Fri Jan 29 18:35:50 2010 Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate In-Reply-To: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> References: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: <201001291235.27535.jarvis@jarviscomputer.com> Jon, At the Winona Igate done at my business we are igating to the internet but not pulling from the internet to RF. Jon, if you set yours up in the same manner I do not think there would be a problem and it would cover a dead spot above wabasha for aprs tracking. internet-->rf is another problem and requires a great deal of care and planning. if you do that then I would only turn it on while you can monitor until you know that you have got it set up correctly. Many just forward to rf message to or from a local list. One thing that cannot be done is forwarding every internet packet to rf as there are 100s of thousands per day. I hope my opinion helps. There may be more than one igate in Winona, 73 Clare de K0NY On Friday 29 January 2010 08:04:18 jonmcpete@cpinternet.com wrote: > We have been planning for a while to put an APRS digipeater > on our tower at Wabasha. Russ, N0QK, has been involved with > the idea. A question came up this week that I had no clue > about: As internet access is available 200' from the tower > (our house), should we make it an IGate? When is it a > "problem" having too many connections to the internet too > close together such as Rochester AND Winona AND Wabasha > etc.? Offhand I couldn't think of why that would be bad. > If internet access was lost in a disaster, you would want it > to revert back to a repeat mode but maybe IGates repeat > anyway in addition to feeding info to the internet?? It > seems to me that if IGates also normally repeat it would > just add to the "clutter" of signals. Can anybody educate > me? > Jon WA0UNB > > Jon Peterson wa0unb > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc -- Mr. Clare Jarvis President, Jarvis Computer Software PO Box 1264 Winona, MN 5598707264 (507) 454-2575 From jj at aprsworld.com Fri Jan 29 18:36:40 2010 From: jj at aprsworld.com (James Jarvis) Date: Fri Jan 29 18:36:56 2010 Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate In-Reply-To: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> References: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: <4B632AB8.9080203@aprsworld.com> Jon, Around here it probably wouldn't hurt to have it I-Gate. In areas with more activity, too many I-Gates can hurt by gatewaying messages from the internet to RF too much. I would say go for it. -Jim jonmcpete@cpinternet.com wrote: > We have been planning for a while to put an APRS digipeater > on our tower at Wabasha. Russ, N0QK, has been involved with > the idea. A question came up this week that I had no clue > about: As internet access is available 200' from the tower > (our house), should we make it an IGate? When is it a > "problem" having too many connections to the internet too > close together such as Rochester AND Winona AND Wabasha > etc.? Offhand I couldn't think of why that would be bad. > If internet access was lost in a disaster, you would want it > to revert back to a repeat mode but maybe IGates repeat > anyway in addition to feeding info to the internet?? It > seems to me that if IGates also normally repeat it would > just add to the "clutter" of signals. Can anybody educate > me? > Jon WA0UNB > > Jon Peterson wa0unb > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc From jonmcpete at cpinternet.com Sat Jan 30 06:06:57 2010 From: jonmcpete at cpinternet.com (jonmcpete@cpinternet.com) Date: Sat Jan 30 06:07:05 2010 Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate Message-ID: <4b63cc81.3a4.6665.1893891587@cpinternet.com> Thanks for the info! Last thing: So when you IGate to the internet those signals received by RF do you also still repeat what is received by RF back out again on RF as a digipeater does for the benefit of mobiles and of stationary users not internet equipped? I would think so as long as the last digit "n"of any such RF-repeated messages can be made to be 1 no matter what the last digit was on the received message. Maybe that can't be done and one just has to live with the potential for duplication of messages? Jon > Jon, > > > At the Winona Igate done at my business we are igating to > the internet but not pulling from the internet to RF. > Jon, if you set yours up in the same manner I do not > think there would be a problem and it would cover a dead > spot above wabasha for aprs tracking. > > internet-->rf is another problem and requires a great deal > of care and planning. if you do that then I would only > turn it on while you can monitor until you know that you > have got it set up correctly. > > Many just forward to rf message to or from a local list. > > One thing that cannot be done is forwarding every internet > packet to rf as there are 100s of thousands per day. > > > I hope my opinion helps. > > There may be more than one igate in Winona, > > 73 Clare > de K0NY > > > > On Friday 29 January 2010 08:04:18 > > jonmcpete@cpinternet.com wrote: We have been planning > > for a while to put an APRS digipeater on our tower at > > Wabasha. Russ, N0QK, has been involved with the idea. > > A question came up this week that I had no clue about: > > As internet access is available 200' from the tower (our > > house), should we make it an IGate? When is it a > > "problem" having too many connections to the internet > too close together such as Rochester AND Winona AND > > Wabasha etc.? Offhand I couldn't think of why that > > would be bad. If internet access was lost in a disaster, > > you would want it to revert back to a repeat mode but > > maybe IGates repeat anyway in addition to feeding info > > to the internet?? It seems to me that if IGates also > > normally repeat it would just add to the "clutter" of > > signals. Can anybody educate me? > > Jon WA0UNB > > > > Jon Peterson wa0unb > > _______________________________________________ > > WARC mailing list > > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc > > > > -- > Mr. Clare Jarvis > President, Jarvis Computer Software > PO Box 1264 > Winona, MN 5598707264 > > (507) 454-2575 > _______________________________________________ > WARC mailing list > WARC@lists.w0ne.org > http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc Jon Peterson wa0unb From rmarsole at luminet.net Sat Jan 30 12:13:47 2010 From: rmarsole at luminet.net (Russell Marsolek) Date: Sat Jan 30 12:13:42 2010 Subject: [WARC] North to Beargrease! In-Reply-To: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> References: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: <000301caa1a5$acc9c2e0$065d48a0$@net> Good morning! Well Helen and I, along with Winona ham Paul Degallier will be rolling at 7:00 AM today, headed north to work the John Beargrease Sled Dog Race! I'll be transmitting APRS as we caravan up through Wisconsin, over to Duluth, and then up the north shore. If interested you can go to Beargrease.com to get the details about this race! 73's! RLM / N0QK From rmarsole at luminet.net Sat Jan 30 12:14:41 2010 From: rmarsole at luminet.net (Russell Marsolek) Date: Sat Jan 30 12:14:35 2010 Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate In-Reply-To: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> References: <4b62eae2.300.2a13.1169487889@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: <000401caa1a5$ccf255f0$66d701d0$@net> Morning John! And if interested, I have a radio and TNC should you wish to setup a standard APRS Node. RLM / N0QK -----Original Message----- From: warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org [mailto:warc-bounces@lists.w0ne.org] On Behalf Of jonmcpete@cpinternet.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:04 AM To: warc@lists.w0ne.org Subject: [WARC] APRS digipeater vs. IGate We have been planning for a while to put an APRS digipeater on our tower at Wabasha. Russ, N0QK, has been involved with the idea. A question came up this week that I had no clue about: As internet access is available 200' from the tower (our house), should we make it an IGate? When is it a "problem" having too many connections to the internet too close together such as Rochester AND Winona AND Wabasha etc.? Offhand I couldn't think of why that would be bad. If internet access was lost in a disaster, you would want it to revert back to a repeat mode but maybe IGates repeat anyway in addition to feeding info to the internet?? It seems to me that if IGates also normally repeat it would just add to the "clutter" of signals. Can anybody educate me? Jon WA0UNB Jon Peterson wa0unb _______________________________________________ WARC mailing list WARC@lists.w0ne.org http://lists.w0ne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/warc